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VPA1
Star Joined: 10/20/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 54 |
Topic: Is there art without an audience? Posted: 11/12/06 at 6:14pm |
Long story short, our CT board asked one of our directors to remove the f
bomb from PROOF. That's it, no other changes. Then the newspapers got a hold of it, made a huge issue of it and raised the spectre of censorship, and the director jumped ship to a smaller ct in the neighboring town. The board's logic: 22 instances of the f bomb is too much for our conservative community in one show. Ticket sales would drop, patrons would get up and leave, our reputation would take a hit for vulgarity. PROOF brought to Hollywood and the big screen was toned down to a PG-13 rating, why not do the same? The director's logic: art trumps all. My question: if there is no audience, is there art? Thanks, Larry |
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castMe
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Posted: 11/12/06 at 6:29pm |
If you are asking specifically about theater........Theater without audience is a dress rehearsal. |
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Gaafa
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Posted: 11/12/06 at 8:19pm |
Boom Boom - Cast me!
"Art for art sake is not true art" Besides the legal aspects covered in the ?Changing profanity? thread. With all that free media publicity I think the Board missed out on a gold brick opportunity. Especially from the ultra conservatives, who I?m sure would have packed the season out or even extended it. It?s not as though it was the first play they had done with the magic words in. Also they would have at least proved one way or another, all their assumptions of what ?would? or ?could? happen &/or just how conservative the community really is? |
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Theatrestation
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Posted: 11/12/06 at 8:21pm |
There may be art, but in community theatre how long can it last without an audience? Did someone put the newspaper up to writing the article? The issue of sensorship aside it sounds as if someone was trying to cause trouble for your theatre.
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MikeO
Lead Joined: 9/15/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
Posted: 11/12/06 at 9:04pm |
Sounds like there was a timing problem here. If the board approved the show, and wanted the f bombs taken out, then the director should have been aware of this since the beginning. Unless the board decided to ask for the removal mid production....(We all know that never happens)
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JShieldsIowa
Star Joined: 11/05/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 49 |
Posted: 11/12/06 at 11:47pm |
I?m personally sick and tired of CT boards approving plays and then changing the script to satisfy ?conservative? audiences. Unless the board received approval from the royalty house or the playwright - do the show as written or don?t consider doing it. Granted, the movie was different. David Auburn wrote the screenplay adaptation - so he was in control of HIS script. The original post in this thread doesn?t make it clear - but if the board approached the director after rehearsals began about changing the script - I applaud him or her for taking a stand and leaving the production. I personally find it completely pretentious on anyone?s part to think they know better than the playwright in what should be written. The ?f-bomb? really had no parallel to get dramatic points across. IF that?s what Auburn wanted - he wanted it for a reason in his stage play. He must have known what he was doing to win a Pulitzer and a Tony for the show. If CT boards are concerned about offending audiences - do Annie or You?re A Good Man Charlie Brown and save the ?racier? shows for more sophisticate audiences elsewhere. Whether there is art without an audience - I don?t think the CT board actually gave the show a chance to prove if there would have been an audience or not. I think GAAFA is correct - the board missed out on actually answering this question for itself. |
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Theatrestation
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Posted: 11/13/06 at 12:06am |
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JShieldsIowa
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Posted: 11/13/06 at 11:47am |
I'm not talking about anyone's intelligence or socioeconomic conditions/status. And yes, any "white trash" person can drop an "F Bomb". But can they drop an "F Bomb" and win a Tony and a Pulitzer with it? |
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Theatrestation
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Posted: 11/13/06 at 1:58pm |
Your initial post stated that:
Insinuating that sophisticated audiences were the ones that would accept the "F Bombs" and the ones that didn't like the profanity were not sophisticated. My point is that "F-Bombs" have nothing to do with sophistication. As for winning the Pulitzer prize, I am sure he did not win BECAUSE of the language. Perhaps he won in spite of it. |
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JShieldsIowa
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Posted: 11/13/06 at 2:08pm |
For saying you don't want to "get personal" about this - you sure seem to be taking it personally... |
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