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falstaff29
Celebrity Joined: 9/17/04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 155 |
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:22pm |
I don't think charging a costume fee is appropriate. Something
just doesn't feel right about it. There are ways to get around
it. One I don't think anyone's mentioned yet:
If the clothing is specific, try to work something out with a local business. For various shows, we've been loaned tuxes, various ethnic clothing, etc. for huge discounts in exchange for giving them advertising- a sheet in the program, sometimes (with more exotic clothing), a posterboard of the cast in the costumes in the theater lobby. |
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Bevy
Walk-On Joined: 2/22/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 2/22/07 at 10:05pm |
My question is this: do you not spend money on your other hobbies? Our CT struggles to meet all the cost, provide quality theatre (and we do), and make any kind of profit. I don't think it is out of line to spend a few dollars on your passion...even if it in the form of a costume fee. On occasion, we charge a costume fee. Scholarships are always available who can't pay and we do offer family rates.
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Linda S
Celebrity Joined: 4/16/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 312 |
Posted: 2/23/07 at 8:49am |
I am sorry Bev, but It's not the same thing as spending money on another hobby like scrapbooking or minature golf where your responsibility is to no one but yourself. The theater, as a business, is relying on the actors to perform a function in order for them to exist. If someone misses a scrapbooking class or a round of minature golf there is no loss to anyone but them. If an actor doesn't show-up to a performance it could be catastrophic for the rest of the cast, the patrons, and the theatre. I would never ask those wonderful volunteers, who give so much in order for my theater to exist, to pay for anything. I would be mortified if the theater made a profit because the actors had paid for their own costumes. I have pounded the pavement and spent hours on the phone finding underwriters and donations. We have cultivated a costume loan system with most of the the other theaters in the area including the professional theater and the university. (By the way, the university borrowed costumes from me yesterday.) Just like any business, if you can't afford to do it, you shouldn't be doing it. You need to rethink your play selections and do things within your budget, just like any good business. Sorry about the rant.
Linda
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vpaoffice
Walk-On Joined: 2/27/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 2/27/07 at 4:20pm |
YIKES! We just did our huge musical for the season, "Beauty and the Beast", and our costuming costs were through the roof. But that was something that we had to consider before selecting the show. It would have been horrible to ask a family of six to pay $50 each to pay for costumes. As a CT, you have to consider that you are asking a lot of a volunteer to give up so many hours for rehearsals and performances. But to ask them to PAY to be in a show? That seems cruel. We just have to be smart about recouping our losses. For example, we are going to auction off the costumes that are too specific be used for other productions (i.e. Mrs Potts, Cogsworth, Lumiere).
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Nanette
Celebrity Joined: 8/01/06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 399 |
Posted: 2/27/07 at 10:30pm |
Perhaps I'm a little off topic here, but why do CT's tend to budget $ for areas like sets, musicians, etc., but rarely for costumes? Sure, flats can be painted and reused, but costumes can also be redesigned for multiple shows.
I actually worked for a theatre once that, when I asked what my costuming budget would be, told me that I had no budget ... that I would have to sew from rags ... and they were serious!!! I literally took apart moldy curtains, torn bed linens, and old church choir robes to make costumes. Other theatres pay everyone BUT the costume designer (and then give them no budget on top of it).
To charge a "costume fee" is inappropriate. If you need funds, simply call it a "production fee" and spread the money around a bit.
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whitebat
Celebrity Joined: 8/05/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 137 |
Posted: 8/13/07 at 11:47pm |
It sounds like some people should have a "damage deposit" rather than a fee (worried about damaging costumes). We never charged a costume fee, but we do sell our scripts to the actors at cost. If the script is not returned in good condition (and not highlighted), you are expected to pay for it. Many people like to have the script for a memento. |
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BillCVFT
Walk-On Joined: 5/04/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 9/11/07 at 5:01pm |
I've always had mixed emotions about charging fees to people participating. The argument always goes that people pay fees for every other activity, and they should pay for theater participation as well. I wish we could get to the point, financially, where we could feel we didn't have to, but the reality is, it's just one more revenue source (ticket sales, concessions, donations, and grants being the others). And, if nothing else, it reduces drop-outs from the cast once people have a little skin in the game.
Our CT used to charge all actors a participation fee (per person, w/ a max per family) and also a fee for their costume/s, up to a $50 maximum. This got to be a nightmare for the costumer to keep track of, so I simplified it and changed it to an all encompassing "Participation fee" which is is now typically $50/actor, $150 max/family. No fees for musicians, crew, etc. This eliminates the nightmare for the costumer, and the actors get a portion of it back in the form of free meals between matinee/evening shows, and a dinner after strike. If people have a problem with this, they don't show it. We still get plenty of folks auditioning.
Bill, CVFT
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cujimmy
Walk-On Joined: 9/07/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 9/11/07 at 6:24pm |
Crazy. Who collects the cash at the door? Who gets control of the the whole process? If anyone asked my actors to pay up, I'd tell them they better recast and find a new Director. We're already donating our time with no return. If you can't make enough to cover costs through the door, then put on better shows, advertize more, run extra shows. Don't charge those who are donating their time already. BEVY says "Don't you pay for your hobbies?" Give me a break. I lose $5000-$10000 everytime I Direct a show because I lose time at work to attend rehearsals. You sound like the typical front office personel.
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bovious
Walk-On Joined: 10/23/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 12/04/07 at 2:11pm |
Funny y'all should be talking about this. I just sent the following note to my theater's board.
Folks, I have distributed this to all the (redacted) board members in my address book. Please forward to any board members who are not included. It's come to my attention that a new practice is in place at (redacted) that disturbs me greatly. It is shocking and completely beyond the pale to omit player bios in the program, ESPECIALLY due to the "high cost of the program" as I have been told is the reason. Surely this small bit of recognition is due the players, who have after all sold advertising into that very program. Additionally, I have bit my tongue as I have paid each $15 "insurance fee" for the privilege of appearing in shows at (redacted). At first I paid gladly due to my ignorance of how things are normally done in Community Theater. However, my experience with other groups has taught me that this practice is unheard of and it should be stopped. The Board needs to swallow this as a cost of doing business. I hope you know that I have enjoyed my relationship with (redacted) greatly and have done some of my proudest work there. However, I will not be able to continue this relationship beyond "It's A Wonderful Life" unless these two practices end. I realize that it is probably too late to insert player bios into our current programs, and would certainly not anticipate refunds for "It's A Wonderful Life" fees...although I'm sure that would be much appreciated by all. Please consider this before making a snap response. I believe we have much to offer one another. Sincerely, (My Name) |
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