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eveharrington
Celebrity Joined: 8/28/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 198 |
Posted: 11/09/06 at 3:09pm |
under most circumstances I would agree w/ B.M.D. to get rid of them fast. Of course the overall quality of the show is the most important thing to the direcor, but these sound like very small children. It gives me pause because I wouldn't want to punish them for something they likely have no say in. If you have no choice you have no choice, I just think it's a shame the kids will miss out because of whatever reason the mother has decided it's not a priority.
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castMe
Celebrity Joined: 11/02/05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
Posted: 11/09/06 at 4:58pm |
Drop 'em
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Linda S
Celebrity Joined: 4/16/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 312 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 8:22am |
Kids know what is fair and right. If it is not fair to give these kids special treatment, you are going to have trouble with the rest of the kids in the cast, if not now, later. I know that it sounds terrible, but it is probably the best for the show, the cast, the kids and their mom to drop them. I had to let a young cast member go once. He was slightly older then these children, but still a kid. I was clear about when he needed to be at rehearsals. I called and left messages numerous times. The other cast members said he wasn't sick. After a couple of weeks of not hearing from him, I let the kid who had been doing his lines have them. That was fair. That's when he finally showed up and wanted his part back. I know the other kids told him at school. I can't imagine how much respect I would have lost if I had let him back in the cast. The kids would not have seen it as second chance, but that it wasn't fair. Anyway, I told him maybe next time. I didn't hold his past against him at the next auditions. He did deserve a second chance then. He came to all the rehearsals for that show. I think it has to be about the bigger picture, and setting standards that are clear and fair for everyone not just the person you are having trouble with. It just makes it easier in the long run. . . Okay, end of soapbox rant from the fifth grade teacher. Linda |
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B-M-D
Celebrity Joined: 11/03/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 346 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 9:07am |
I think you got lucky with this kid giving him another chance with another show. I'm generally of the once burned philosphy.... But you definitely did the right thing the first time. |
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Linda S
Celebrity Joined: 4/16/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 312 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 9:41am |
He was a kid. I would probably not be so forgiving with an adult. L. |
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red diva
Celebrity Joined: 5/15/06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 199 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 2:36pm |
Speaking as a long-time teacher, if you crack down hard at the first sign of trouble (in a kind way, of course.....I'm not a Nazi), it establishes your authority and sets the course for the rest of the class/rehearsal time. Obviously, though, you have to let your rules and policies be known at the outset so that the kids know what you expect of them. Most of the time, the offender gets the message and when he/she comes back asking for a second chance, I'm willing to give it. BUT....burn me a second time????? Two strikes and you're out!
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Kathy S
Celebrity Joined: 8/21/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 303 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 4:21pm |
I have a situation with an adult (?) woman that I recruited into my show. I laid out the expectations on the audition form, she signed it, and we started rehearsals. And last night she missed for the third time. The first two times she called me with an "excuse", but last night she just didn't show up. Finally she text messaged another cast member an excuse! If I had ANYBODY else in mind to take her part I'd get rid of her, but I'm over a barrel. I feel personally wronged, too, because I have calling her every night to offer her a ride to rehearsals since we live near each other. Yesterday when I called her she declined a ride saying that she would get herself there since she would be done earlier then me. THEN SHE DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP! I'm not really asking for advice (aside from an answer to "what do I say to her to get her cooperation from now on?") I can't really do anything. I recruited her because we suffer a shortage of people that want to be onstage and young people especially. (She's about 20). So I can't replace her. I don't really want to. But what if I just said to her, "You know, Amy, I need to know that you are going to be at every rehearsal from now on. Maybe you didn't understand how important your attendance is. And if you didn't it's my fault for not making that clear enough, but now I need to know that you will be there every time you are scheduled for a rehearsal." |
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suzecue1
Star Joined: 9/19/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 90 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 5:45pm |
It is very interesting how different directors handle cast members who don't show up to all the rehearsals. I am co-directing "The Christmas Schooner". 20+ people in my cast, mostly adults, and a few kids. It opens 2 weeks from today. We have not had everyone at any one rehearsal yet. I am not panicing. Not yet anyway, maybe next week I'll plan that, about Thursday, I will write it in my day planner. I do make statements about how important it is to be at rehearsal, how the other cast members need everyone there for blocking and cues, etc. How distracting it is to be talking to blank space when that person is gone. It says very clearly on the audition forms that only tech week rehearsals are mandatory. I may take the advise to have the cast sign something saying they understand what is expected of them for my next show. I personally feel like CT directors have to be very flexible with people. Everyone has a different level of commitment, different work ethics. Things happen. I know they all want to be involved or they wouldn't have auditioned. I also think that you can not force people to match your commitment level, and if you try, it will turn them off and this is supposed to be fun - right? If someone was to miss a couple of rehearsals I would call them and find out why. Tell them I missed them, and remind them how important it is for them to be there, offer a ride if need be. But I wouldn't just dump them. When I was a new director I used to get very upset because people did not have the same amount of committment as I did. I have mellowed. Now I realize that people have lives, jobs, family committments, other hobbies. I do still want to be told if someone is going to be absent. So I can plan around it, but I wouldn't drop someone who misses a couple of rehearsals and doesn't tell me they will be gone. Talk to them first, find out whats going on, then make the decision together whether they should continue.
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eveharrington
Celebrity Joined: 8/28/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 198 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 6:36pm |
We definitly miss rehearsals around here, I mean it is a CT most of us have to be paid for something, but you know about it ahead of time and it's expected that if your job or another commitment is interfering that it will be minimal. You put possible conflicts on the audition form so the director can decide if they can be worked around. I would NOT however put up with an actor who just didn't feel like coming to rehearsal. They may not think they need to be there but it's not their call to make and it hurts the rest of the cast.
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Playwright
Celebrity Joined: 4/01/06 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 126 |
Posted: 11/10/06 at 9:09pm |
I'm probably going to open a can of worms by saying this but why is it that actors are 'forgiven' for having lives and missing rehearsals? We directors put hours of work into a play even before rehearsals begin, we are usually one of the first to arrive and the last to leave and barring being seriously ill we never miss a rehearsal. Maybe somebody can explain this to me.
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