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Kyle
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    Posted: 2/26/04 at 7:03pm

I have just gone into production on a musical, and I am watching an attraction growing between two members of my production staff (AD and SM). I know that you can't force people NOT to be attracted, but I am really concerned about them getting into a relationship during this production. First off, it makes other cast and crew uncomfortable to be around a couple that is... amorous. Second, when relationships go sour, it is understandably difficult for people to continue working together.

Any advice on how to handle this??? I realize that I could opt not to say or do anything at all, and if you think that would be best, I would appreciate that feedback as well. It seems Draconian to lay down rules about this kind of thing, but another director told me that she explicitly tells her cast and crew her feelings about this on the very first day of rehearsal (she doesn't strictly "forbid" it though). Ack!!!

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bullet Posted: 2/26/04 at 10:49pm

YIKES. Been there. With me it was two cast members. It was really difficult to ignore.  I had to do something. I had known them both for a long time, so I felt comfortable talking to them. I spoke to them both seperately. I didn't make a big deal out of it, but asked them to please keep it professional during rehearsal. Which they did for the most part. The other cast members where not shy about letting them know if they were getting to friendly. I didn't discourage that. I was glad I talked to them. By the way, the romance was over right after strike.

When I taught high school I use to tell my students to leave their hormones outside the door. That they could pick them up when rehearsal was over. It was corny. They laughed, but it worked. 

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bullet Posted: 2/27/04 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by Linda

YIKES. Been there. With me it was two cast members. It was really difficult to ignore.  I had to do something. I had known them both for a long time, so I felt comfortable talking to them. I spoke to them both seperately. I didn't make a big deal out of it, but asked them to please keep it professional during rehearsal. Which they did for the most part. The other cast members where not shy about letting them know if they were getting to friendly. I didn't discourage that. I was glad I talked to them. By the way, the romance was over right after strike.

When I taught high school I use to tell my students to leave their hormones outside the door. That they could pick them up when rehearsal was over. It was corny. They laughed, but it worked. 

Thanks for the advice, Linda! As you can probably tell, I'm really squeamish about approaching this topic, and I think that your use of humor may be the best bet.

Ironically - I would be happy for these two if circumstances were different. They are both doing great in their respective jobs, and they are really nice folks to begin with. They have a lot in common, and it makes perfect sense that they would fall for each other. However, if things continue on this trajectory, I'm going to have to find some way to appeal to their sense of professionalism and ask them to keep it low-key.

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bullet Posted: 2/27/04 at 9:55pm
I most definitely agree with the "keep it professional approach", I co-direct/musical direct depending on the production and have been dating the head director for over 5 years now.  We're able to keep the relationship out of the show and just work when at work.  Most of the time, the cast doesn't even know we're dating.  It seems to work out okay, as long as we keep it on the down low during the production process.
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bullet Posted: 3/02/04 at 1:35pm

Originally posted by CCTheaterMN

I most definitely agree with the "keep it professional approach", I co-direct/musical direct depending on the production and have been dating the head director for over 5 years now.  We're able to keep the relationship out of the show and just work when at work.  Most of the time, the cast doesn't even know we're dating.  It seems to work out okay, as long as we keep it on the down low during the production process.

Fair enough, and thank you! It is nice to hear when this situation goes right, and it sounds like the "compartmentalize" approach works best.

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bullet Posted: 8/27/04 at 2:55pm

Of course, what's always fun is when the opposite happens. I'm sure everyone here has a horror story.

A few years back we were producing Pippin, and the actor playing Pippin and the actress playing Catherine were dating, a fact unknown to us until about two weeks into rehearsal. Naturally, they broke up during hell week. The scene where Pippin rejects Catherine and runs off was very powerful. The entire rest of the show was awkward and tense. Nowadays we ask first. It usually is met with giggles or incredulity, but we are NOT going to have that happen again.

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bullet Posted: 10/13/05 at 3:08pm

The first full-length play that I directed had two performers dating.  I'm sad to say there was more drama backstage than on-stage that year.

Since then I've had to deal with it when I discover a couple are interested or dating each other.  Last year I had my production stage manager "cheat" (went on a date with a different girl--don't read into this) on my assistant stage manager.  To add to the chaos, the girl he dated had just joined the make-up crew.  Once I found out, I brought all three together and had a meeting.  I explained to the newly added crew person that I needed my PSM and ASM more than I needed her and I was going to have to drop her from the crew to prevent anymore disruptions in the rehearsals.  After dismissing her, I privately laid into my PSM and ASM about keeping the personal lives out of the rehearsal hall and their responsibilities in maintaining a safe environment for people to be creative which cannot happen when they're fighting.

Generally, a couple of my students get to know each other during the "bonding" of drama, and they may even end up dating.  But other than making sure they are constantly chaperoned by an adult, it is not usually a problem.  I agree--lay down some ground rules at the first rehearsal so everybody knows what their commitments have to be to work with you.

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bullet Posted: 10/13/05 at 4:05pm
I've had a very different experience. LOL

Two good friends of mine (who didn't know each other) were
cast in a small touring company of "You're a Good Man, Charlie
Brown!" as Charlie Brown and Patty.

They have now been married for ten years and have a six year
old son.

I was thrilled when I found out my friends (and actors) were
getting together! Of course, they never ever let their
personal relationship interfere with their performances ... and
they were adults, not school students.

OMG - as I type this, I realize that there was another couple
in one of my plays that met, fell in love and got married. They
weren't as good of friends of mine as the other couple - but I
think they have two or three kids, too...and are very together.

Hell - I should stop directing plays and open competition for
Match.com    
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bullet Posted: 10/13/05 at 5:36pm

I met my wife when we were in a show together.  Didn't start dating until it was over, though.

You can't control emotions, but you can control behavior.  No slap-and-tickle in the theatre.  Save it for the opening night party.

Parenthetically, why do people feel the need to crawl all over each other in public, anyway?  Just to prove they can get a girl/boy friend?

Or am I just an old f**t?  (And yes, I'm aware these aren't mutually exclusive)

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bullet Posted: 10/13/05 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by POB14


Parenthetically, why do people feel the need to crawl all over
each other in public, anyway?? Just to prove they can get a girl/
boy friend?


Or am I just an old f**t?? (And yes, I'm aware these aren't
mutually exclusive)



I"ve never understood it either - even in high school I thought it
was really shabby to see couples making out in the hallways. I
used to think it was simply being oblivous to civilized behavior -
but you may be right..maybe they do think they need to
prove something or other.

I don't consider age - or fartdom - any kind of benchmark for
honorable behavior LOL
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