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bullet Posted: 1/02/09 at 4:44pm
So after looking at everything I decided that I'm not going to try a musical--for 2009 at least. I just got another packet of stuff from Tams-WItmark with a contract and letter, etc. saying we sent you a quote, if you're going to do the show we need a $200 deposit, etc.

Do I need to send them back a letter or email telling them I'm not going to do the show?
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This thread makes my head spin.... I'm looking at doing Charlie Brown for 2010 season... I'm not looking forward to dealings Tams after reading the experiences here!
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bullet Posted: 1/07/09 at 7:45pm
Ugghhh I hate when we end up picking a Tams-Witmark show.  I'll add my venting to this thread only because it's fresh in my mind.
 
We're doing "Hello Dolly" right now.  I called them after we cast a real singer in the role of Dolly to request the transposed score -- which I agree with the earlier post that it's dumb that you MUST rent both scores.  So they were supposed to fax me an invoice that day.  The fax never came.  Instead about a week later we get an invoice in the mail for it. 
 
Fine I say to myself, maybe they forgot the fax number or something.  So the next day we send them a check (this is before Christmas), because lord forbid they take credit cards or do any processesing online like the other major companies.  Well we still hadn't received the new scores.  The check had cleared our bank already.  So I called today and said, "where's our stuff".  After sitting on hold for a few minutes they get back on the line and say "it will go out today."  Sounded to me like, unless I would have called they wouldn't have bothered sending it for a while yet.  I'm glad our Dolly is pro because she's not going to have much time with the score in the new keys.
 
Okay, done with my rant.
 
Oh one more thing, I hate how they nickle and dime you to death.  Oh, you want to keep the orchestra books for your whole run?  Well that's another couple of hundred dollars please.  Grrrrrr.  Give me MTI, R&H and Theatrical Rights Worldwide any day at least they're much clearer with their billing and royalty quotes!!
 
Now, I'm really done with my rant. Tongue
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bullet Posted: 3/21/09 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by tristanrobin

The only reason ANYBODY ever used sides was because entire scripts were too expensive to have transcribed (when they were hand done). With computers and printers, you would think that was no longer an issue.
 
Nope.  Sides were the way all Broadway shows were done -- in the 1920s.  Actors were given only their own lines so that nobody could steal the script.
 
Tams needs to acknowledge the millenium.
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bullet Posted: 8/28/09 at 3:59pm
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Does Tams-Witmark have an e-mail?  I need to contact them about a problem with some stuff the sent me.
 
Thanks.


The contact info will cost you another 3 month rental on whatever they sent you and you'll have to pay to have the stuff sent back and to get replacements for what you really need and if that extends the length of time you'll need to produce the show then you'll have to call (another 3 month rental) and get them to sell you an extension. And by the way, they never make mistakes.

But I'm not bitter....


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bullet Posted: 8/28/09 at 4:02pm
Originally posted by dexter74656

This thread makes my head spin.... I'm looking at doing Charlie Brown for 2010 season... I'm not looking forward to dealings Tams after reading the experiences here!


We just did You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown and let's just say that our Board voted never to use them again. $4,500 (PLUS) for the royalties and rental for a 8 show run. But they have good shows. Someone said you could negotiate, but I tried and just got laughed at....

They'll probably charge me for posting this.... CRAP!


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bullet Posted: 8/28/09 at 4:05pm
75director, Go ahead and tell us how you really feel....
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bullet Posted: 8/29/09 at 10:07pm
Said teejaystudio...$4,500 (PLUS) for the royalties and rental for a 8 show run.  You should feel lucky.  Based on what I received, an 8 show Run of Baker Street would be - wait for it - $15,560.00.
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bullet Posted: 8/30/09 at 2:26pm
After Bye Bye Birdie ... I'm done. They just nickel and dime the crap out of you.  You can't get a keyboard part unless you order the entire orchestration.  What a load of crap.  We're lucky to have 4 musicians ... what the hell do they think we need the synth. for anyway.
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bullet Posted: 8/30/09 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by lagazza

Said teejaystudio...$4,500 (PLUS) for the royalties and rental for a 8 show run.  You should feel lucky.  Based on what I received, an 8 show Run of Baker Street would be - wait for it - $15,560.00.


Well, if you charge $1,000 a ticket - you're golden! WOW. That is really sad.Dead


We have a 89 seat theater and can't charge more than $20 and we had no sell outs.
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