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 Topic: playbill listings
 Posted By: valarie
 Subject: playbill listings
 Date Posted: 2/23/10 at 3:01pm
 
 
        
          | In what order should people be recognized in the playbills; i.e., producer, director, stage manager, etc?  Or can anyone direct me to a website that would be authoritative on this topic? |  
 
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 Posted By: pdavis69
 Date Posted: 2/23/10 at 5:32pm
 
 
        
          | I should always be first and in the biggest, boldest font. 
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 Patrick L. Davis
 Fort Findlay Playhouse
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 Posted By: chel
 Date Posted: 2/23/10 at 7:29pm
 
 
        
          | Our CT does page 1  "CAST in order of appearance"  then Setting   page 2 is production staff:   Producer Director Stage Manager Assistant Stage Manager Set Design Set Artwork (if any) Set Construction Lighting Design Light Board Operator Sound Design Sound Board Operator Costumes Props Technical crew Program Manager Program Advertising Program Cover Design Publicity Photos Tickets Website   Page 3:  Cast bios start with:   Producer Director Characters in order of appearance End with Stage Manager if there's room     
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 chel
 
 www.windhamtheaterguild.org
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 Posted By: JoeMc
 Date Posted: 2/23/10 at 9:43pm
 
 
        
          | | Originally posted by pdavis69 
 I should always be first and in the biggest, boldest font.
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 Bewdy g'donya Patrick!
  
 
 
 
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 [western] Gondawandaland
 "Hear the light & see the sound!
 TOI TOI CHOOKAS
 {may you always play to a full house!}
 
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 Posted By: jayzehr
 Date Posted: 2/24/10 at 6:57am
 
 
        
          | I'd say the director should be above the producer. |  
 Posted By: chel
 Date Posted: 2/26/10 at 1:21pm
 
 
        
          | Who do you like better?  
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 chel
 
 www.windhamtheaterguild.org
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 Posted By: valarie
 Date Posted: 2/26/10 at 3:03pm
 
 
        
          | The problem is we usually put director first and was told by a new producer that we were wrong - that producer ALWAYS got top billing.  So I just wanted to see what the standard was.  Seems like there isn't one. Feelings are so sensitive in community theatre  |  
 Posted By: Topper
 Date Posted: 3/02/10 at 10:10am
 
 
        
          | Producers are listed first in professional theater because the Producer is the one who is responsible for financing (or finding financiers) for the show, acquiring the script from the playwright, and is the person who has HIRED the director to bring the play to life.  So, in a sense, the performance would not exist in the first place without the producer. 
 Community Theater is a little different inasmuch as plays and Directors are chosen by committee or Artistic Director and the Producer (usually a board member) is typically appointed by the board to oversee the production, budget, etc.
 
 Rule of thumb:  If the Producer is responsible in ANY WAY for the hiring (or selecting) of the Director, then the Producer must be listed first.
 
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 "None of us really grow up.  All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone
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 Posted By: JoeMc
 Date Posted: 3/02/10 at 9:52pm
 
 
        
          | Here we don't designate a Producer, as Topper posted, this is normaly the province of the commitee as a whole. 
 
 
 
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 [western] Gondawandaland
 "Hear the light & see the sound!
 TOI TOI CHOOKAS
 {may you always play to a full house!}
 
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 Posted By: lparks
 Date Posted: 4/01/10 at 3:35pm
 
 
        
          | TITLE PAGE  Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co Presents NAME OF SHOW Adapted/ Written by: Name Directed By* Choreography By Musical Direction By Featuring: Name(s) of all cast members Lighting Design by                   Set Design By               Wardrobe Design By          Production Manager                                  Prod. Stage Manager Technical Director * - the director is a member of the Stage Directors and Choreographers society, and independent theatrical labor union. Produced by special arrangement with -----. THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE PROGRAM Page 1. CoverPage 2. Season Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 3. Welcome Message
 Page 4. Show Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 5. Title Page
 Page 6. Show Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 7. Who's Who (cast first, then creative, then basic production crew)
 Page 8. Who's Who
 Page 9. Who's Who
 Page 10. Show Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 11. Who's Who
 Page 12. Complete Production Crew
 Page 13. Show Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 14. Show Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 15. Patrons Circle Sign-up form
 Page 16. 2010/2011 Patrons
 Page 17. Show Sponsor Ad
 Page 18. House Rules & Policy
 Page 19. Season Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 Page 20. Season Sponsor Ad (Full Page)
 
 
 
 
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 Landon Parks,
 Producing Artistic Director,
 Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co
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 Posted By: Spectrum
 Date Posted: 4/01/10 at 4:47pm
 
 
        
          | My stars, what community theatre (besides the Bloomington Repertory Theatre Company, I mean) routinely creates a TWENTY PAGE program for their shows?  None that I have ever been involved with, that's for sure.  Even the programs for large cast musicals run maybe only TWELVE pages, maximum.  Then again, maybe the BRTC is a little higher up the 'food chain' than COMMUNITY THEATRE, I don't know. 
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 Growing old is mandatory.  Growing up is optional.
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 Posted By: lparks
 Date Posted: 4/01/10 at 5:01pm
 
 
        
          | Actually, our playbills are relatively cheap. We allow 20 pages so that each members of the cast can have a photo and biography, so that we can recognized ALL of our sponsors accordingly. 20 pages is not unheard of, nor all the cost prohibitive. For a 12 performance run in the 561 seat house, our playbills cost comes to $750 dollars by the time we account the $600 discount received from the printers in exchange for advertising space in the program. 
 No, we are not 'higher up' in the food chain. Our budgets are little larger than some community theatre's, but were STILL a community theatre. There are many community theatres with larger budgets than ours, which is pretty meager. Take for instance, the Indianapolis Civic Theatre (which is probably the closest theatre to us that resembles our goals and management practices), who's budget, according to their 990 form, was $600,000 for 2008.
 
 what set's us apart from most community theatre's is that we are 'professionally managed', and we will also derive a large sum of our income from fundraisers and our education and summer camp programs.
 
 
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 Landon Parks,
 Producing Artistic Director,
 Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co
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 Posted By: John Luzaich
 Date Posted: 10/25/10 at 3:57pm
 
 
        
          | Our playbill for our two summer shows performed in rep (Oscar Musical Mix - with Katelyn Epperly,and Kitchen Witches - a comedy) was 44 pages.  So was the playbill for The Legend of Sleepy Hollow designed by artist Gary Kelley, and The Music Man with former SNL actor Gary Kroeger.  That's standard for our shows.  The ads in the playbill more than pay for the playbill.  20 pages are ads.  But it looks good, not "junked up" with ads because many pages include trade ads with other arts organization, theatres, performing arts centers, media, cultural organizations.  The whole thing has an "arts feel" to it.  We get many compliments on our playbill.  But mainly, it generates a profit every year for our organization. 
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 John
 cfct@cfu.net
 http://www.osterregent.org
 http://www.facebook.com/osterregent
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 Posted By: lparks
 Date Posted: 10/26/10 at 10:27am
 
 
        
          | Our Playbill size actually went up for our upcoming show of Narnia. Went from 20 pages up to about 32 - in order to take advantage of ad space. I feel that MANY theatre's do not take advantage of selling ads, which has proved to be  a large source of revenue for us so far. 
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 Landon Parks,
 Producing Artistic Director,
 Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co
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 Posted By: John Luzaich
 Date Posted: 10/27/10 at 12:57pm
 
 
        
          | The original post of this topic asked about how the producer and director is listed in the playbill/program, which listed first?  Most of our community theatres always strive to be the best and so we usually benchmark with other organizations to see what they do.  (that's why we're here on this site)  I always look at professional theatre, broadway, tours, and take what I can from that and try and fit it into our own situation.  If you look at broadway playbills & window cards (posters) the producer is listed 1st, then the show title, then the cast, then the production & artistic staff (designers), then last is always musical director & choreographer and then director.  Director is almost always listed last. (and in a larger size font). 
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 John
 cfct@cfu.net
 http://www.osterregent.org
 http://www.facebook.com/osterregent
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 Posted By: gelcat
 Date Posted: 10/28/10 at 9:43am
 
 
        
          | Having recently gone through this discussion about the order of the production staff, I finally gave up, and gave our playbill people  this rule of thumb -those who put the most brain power into the show get the higher billing! Our costume designer has been consistently listed lower than the set construction crew, and sometimes even below the props person and crew, and not even listed as 'designer', but coordinator or head.  I don't know where the idea has come from that the costumer doesn't do anything but pull clothes from storage...  sheesh...   
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 www.actorsguildonline.org
 Actors Guild of Parkersburg
 Parkersburg, WV
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