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Topic: open auditions
Posted By: WCYP
Subject: open auditions
Date Posted: 10/06/08 at 7:20am
Last summer because we were limited in time we did a director's choice rather than open auditions. This year we're opening auditions to the entire township - we've done open auditions in our own high school but either we knew the kids auditioning or else knew other faculty who knew the kids (their work ethic etc.) We're a little concerned about this year's open auditions - any suggestions about process or application forms?



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Posted By: dexter74656
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 10:07am
Hope this doesn't come too late to help you out

Open auditions are scary - you never know who's going to show up... and the fate of your show rides on who walks in that door.

We always have a good number of excerpts ready - usually 7 or 8 that try to feature a variety of character types.  Not every character (especially when we do big shows of 30+ characters), but a good variety of samples from the show and then we'll ask each person to read a couple of these.  They get the excerpts to prepare from (we usually have 5-10 packets out there, available to people in the order that they arrived based on a sign-up list at the check-in desk).

The check in desk is very important - have a friendly face that explains the procedure and welcomes people to your auditions.

On the form, we ask the basic contact info - we have a lot of students try out, so we also ask age and school.  Additional boxes are to list their last 4 (or so) theaterical experiences, role, size of the role, where/when the production was.  Also ask any conflicts during the production run, how they heard about our production, and what size of role they're interested in - Smaller, Larger, No Preference (although I cast where they're best suited and don't keep myself too concerned about the size that they're after, it's interesting to see what they're looking for - especially the egotistical people that mark "Larger" only - implies to me that if I don't have a big role for them, they're going to quit and not participate).


Posted By: WCYP
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 11:47am
Thanks for your response - this is very similar to what I've done in the past in terms of info. Do you ever ask for recommendations or letters of referral?


Posted By: dboris
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 12:51pm
A few things to add to what Dexter posted.
 
I think it's important to emphesize the question about conflicts. We provide the auditioners a list of all the rehersal and production dates and ask them to note any conflicts. Tell them that we may be able to work around rehersal conflicts if we know about them ahead of time, but it can be a problem if we find out after they have been cast.
 
We take the "roles" question a step further asking if there are any roles the auditioner will or will not accept. I person not wanting a small roll is not always an issue of ego, especially for experienced actors. They may be looking for the challenge of one or two specific major roles in a show and may just not feel challenged enough be a chorus part. I usually don't hold this against them.
 
Make sure everyone involved in the audition process (director(s), producers, representatives of your group, etc) all understand how the auditions will work. Will you do cuts part of the way through the audition, will you do call backs, etc. You may also want to discuss what to do if you don't get people who you are confortable with. Is the director obligated to cast from the auditoners or can roles be left open and cast outside the audition process?
 
 


Posted By: dexter74656
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by WCYP

Do you ever ask for recommendations or letters of referral?


I've never done nor never heard of that being done.  What's a recommendation supposed to accomplish?  Just a judge of character?  Personally I'd rather get this out of my discussions with them during the audition itself.



Originally posted by dboris

I think it's important to emphesize the question about conflicts. We provide the auditioners a list of all the rehersal and production dates and ask them to note any conflicts. Tell them that we may be able to work around rehersal conflicts if we know about them ahead of time, but it can be a problem if we find out after they have been cast.


Oh man, these are such a headache.  I dont' give them a schedule, I say... Here's our rehearsal period.. June 2 through the show on July 22-23-24 or whatever.  List any and all conflicts with that time.  You may have your set rehearsal schedule but what happens if you want to add an extra practice and haven't asked for conflicts yet?  I then take all the cast member's conflicts and add them into a book so I can look at June 18th and see all the people that won't be there - this lets us actually set our rehearsal schedule around the maximum cast availability.  Our performers are told that the earlier in the rehearsal period, the more forgiving we are of conflicts - and there are expected to be absolutely no absences during show week.

But... you still run into things that come up - a family vacation that they forgot about listing.  Or a college visit or something last minute.  My biggest problem this past summer was with two 17/18 year old girls.  One put down that she had a college summer class on Tuesday/Thursday nights, so we scheduled around her because we liked her work, but she failed to put on her form that she also worked as a life-guard on some M-W-F and didn't give us any heads up or forewarning.  My co-director had worked the same job several years back and said that they schedule around everyone really well, so clearly the girl didn't bother to hand off her rehearsal schedule to her employer.

The other girl had written down "Work at [Job name]" but nothing beyond that, so we had no idea that it would pull her away from most every rehearsal she was supposed to be at.  As far as we knew, it was working during the day and not evenings, or weekends or what not - but she gave us nothing.  For a relatively small part, I would have expected her get the small numbers of rehearsals she had to be at cleared from her work schedule - I guess her opinion was that for a small role, she didn't need to be there that much.  *shrug*

I've decided that for our next show, anyone who misses a rehearsal without telling us I'll call the next morning/afternoon.


We take the "roles" question a step further asking if there are any roles the auditioner will or will not accept. I person not wanting a small roll is not always an issue of ego, especially for experienced actors. They may be looking for the challenge of one or two specific major roles in a show and may just not feel challenged enough be a chorus part. I usually don't hold this against them.


That's a good point.  You do get both ends of things.  But people do have a tendency to be bitter a lot, too.  We had a girl who had offered time and again to be a stage manager or do anything backstage because she had experience there from college.  She came in to audition for our last show and was 'ok' - we added her to our list of call backs for a few parts but by the end of auditions we were looking at how many massive amounts of people were scheduled for callbacks and also our lack of a stage manager and said... 'okay, her performance wasn't the greatest.  not bad, but not stand out.  we can have her come in and read and add yet another person to an already 30+ member call back session, or just put her as stage manager and solve that problem.'  we called her and she said OK, but then called us back the next day (or sent the message with her sister, who happened to be girl #2 above...) and said that she'd found a new job and would instead be dedicating her time to that.  I bet she wouldn't have done the same if she'd gotten an on-stage role... and I know she talked bitterly to other people about how she figures she wasn't given a callback because we wanted a stage manager.  Whatever.  I try to go into every audition period with a blank slate, but you think that family is going to be high on my list for our next show?

To add another thing I thought about after I made my earlier post... a couple shows back we tried actually listing all the roles in the show and asking what they were interested in... we had a sheet that listed all 42 roles and a brief description and let people mark, but ultimately, we really didn't pay any attention to this at all because people can't get a good sense of a role based on a sentence description and a handful of excerpts.

Another thing that we ask on our form is if they're interested in assisting back stage - stage hands, hair/make-up, costumes, set construction, set painting.  And we ask if they're interested in helping regardless, only if they're cast, only if they're not cast.   Then when it comes time to find volunteers, we've got a good starting pool of contact info.


Posted By: WCYP
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 5:19pm
The referrals I was thinking about were a way of trying to get some sense of the person's deidcation, work ethic, reliability, etc. If I'm not mistaken, NJPAC has something like this as part of their audition packet. Again, thanks for your comments!


Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 11/04/08 at 3:51pm
A lot of great stuff in this thread.  I've only directed Forever Plaid and I had the advantage of hand-picking the actors.  They all knew each other and had plenty of four part singing background.  They were great.  Next year it's different.

I'll be directing a musical with a cast of approximately 30.  And while I have people that I can "envision" in certain roles, no one is being cast between now and auditions.  I'm hoping someone comes in and blows us all away.

Two things that have been mentioned, but are high on my priority are getting all conflicts on paper.  And I agree ... list all conflicts between the first and last rehearsal.  The rehearsal schedule will depend on availability.

The other HAS to be ... will you accept a role other than a lead ... followed by ... will you accept a role if your BFF, mother, father, brother, sister, aunt and uncle are not cast. 

That's one of the things that bothers me the most about community theatre ... people dropping out because someone else didn't get the part they wanted.  But hey ... it's always going to happen.  Censored


Posted By: DownStageRight
Date Posted: 3/10/10 at 2:00pm
My theater has a system that seems to work pretty well for open autitions (and they are ALL open auditions)  On the audition form we ask for conflicts and to be as accurate as possible.  From the conflicts of the cast we create the rehearsal schedule.  We tell them on the forms what days and hours we rehearse and that there may be added rehearsals at any time.  We do not take any conflicts and insist that every person be available from the Friday before to opening night.
We do not precast.  We do however "encourage" performers to audition with no guarentee of a part.  This way we are not locked into casting someone just because we thought they may be right for the part.
On the form we also ask, what part they would like to be considered for and if they would be willing to play any part.  This way we are aware of those that only want specific parts and wether or now we want to consider them for that part.
We have found that open auditions work best for our area because it gives everyone a fair chance at a role or to take part in a show.   In a previous theater I worked at they precast almost everything and people got frustrated and did not want to work there because they felt they had no chance.  It was the same actors in every show and it got really boring seeing the same people all the time.  Open auditions is just good for the community.



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