Curtain Calls: in character or out?
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Topic: Curtain Calls: in character or out?
Posted By: drose
Subject: Curtain Calls: in character or out?
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 1:08pm
I'm apparently on some sort of curtain call crusade right now, but here it goes anyway...Do you think the curtain call should be done in character or out? And why?
I like the actors to take their call out of character; gracious and smiling, but as themselves. I feel I'm applauding an actor who has done his job well, not the character in the play, although there is, I admit, some overlap.
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Posted By: jayzehr
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 1:24pm
This might be a difference of philosophy regarding "acting" but how exactly would one do a curtain call and acknowledge the audience "in character"?
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Posted By: imamember
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 1:26pm
I think it depends. Normally I've only ever done them out of character, but we recently did Fame and Carmen has that reprise of there she goes in character, but that's her curtain call
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Posted By: chelserin
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 2:19pm
It also depends on the show.... In the case of a farce or other comedy with over the top characters coming out for curtain call as those characers can be the topper on the cake and let the audience applaud the actor as well as their character. For "Nunsens" we did the curtain call in character and the audience loved it!! I've also played a wickedly evil character in a show and when I came out, in character, the audience booed her because she was so bad (it was fabulous). However, in a drama or straight play it may be more appropriate for actors to come as themselves so the audience can appaude the real people who took them on an emotial journey.
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Posted By: B-M-D
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 10:42pm
I think it's entirely dependent on the show and/ or the preferences of the director. Personally I have no preference as long as it's done well.
------------- BD
"Dying is easy, comedy is hard."
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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 9/13/08 at 11:37pm
I agree the type of production will speak to a director normally & "Invite the unexpected & let the genie out of the bottle, to start a train of thought".
Sorry to drivel on, but in a previous life, when I directed Man Of La Mancha @ the Old Mill in South Perth. The show was preset in the holding cell, of the Spanish Inquisition.
the theatre had an A frame roof & no fly system as such. So to have a descending staircase, i rig it up so the head of the stairs was on the DS OP side. The foot of the stairs, was hauled up to the apex of the roof void, so it was completely out of sigh. With the head of the stair on fulcrum, supported by scaffold tower off stage right [OP] masked by the legs & borders.
Anyhow at the final song of the show. Impossible Dream reprise Cervante [Quixote] climbs the stair case to front the Inquisition. All rather dramatic with the prisoners sing & building, as he climbs & disappears above the borders. Then the staircase slowly fly's out to the end of the music & lights fading to black out. which always milked a standing ovation, after less than half a dozen heart beats, the lights go back up, to the lighting state preset prior to the start of the show & the cast have disappeared. Leaving an empty dungeon set, then a cast member pops out of their hiding place, takes a bow & indicates the next cast member in turn. When the whole cast of 20 or so are assembled, they take a company bow. At this point they gesture for Cervantes to appear, however at the dress rehearsal he was not there. Then he did turn up from the back of the auditorium, take his place on stage. Latter I found out as climbed the stairs, he was busting to go to the Dunny & went out the back to relieve himself. The exit door closed on him & he had to run around the theatre to get in & enter thru the FOH.
So I left it in the show & for the bows he appear from the front of house.
On Opening night straight after the show I nicked out the front of the theatre, for a quick smoke. I was in my 'dress Blacks', wearing a 'Dicky bow tie, which is my little bit of tradition. I was quite amused the number of punters who walked around the building, looking up at the roof, attempting to work out how the entrances & exits from the staircase was achieved. One of the leading local critics {At least she believed she was] collared me & asked the question "How did we do it?" To this I said we actually lift the roof, using hydraulics, so they can gain aces!". She wrote in her theatre screed column "it was achievement of a massive an theatrical engineering effect". Blimey she believed me? - So I did not enlighten her any further!
Sorry to prattle on, but things do happen that can be utilised as creative accidents.
{Doesn't help your topic any, but it s one of my wee claims to fame? Even if 'it' is only within my own lunch box!]
{All completly in character}
------------- [western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}
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Posted By: drose
Date Posted: 9/14/08 at 1:53am
Originally posted by jayzehr
This might be a difference of philosophy regarding "acting" but how exactly would one do a curtain call and acknowledge the audience "in character"? |
I guess I'm talking about a character keeping the traits or attitudes from the show -a drunk remaining drunk, a wicked character continuing to sneer or glare, a regal character staying aloof and, well, regal- that sort of thing.
I personally don't like for actors to try to drag one more "moment in the sun" out at curtain call. I like short, sweet, and sincere. Trust me, I know when the actor playing Frankenstein comes out to bow. I watched the show, I don't need (or want) him to lumber out as the monster to squeeze one more moment out of me. But that's just me. (and as an actress, I hate curtain calls, I find them terribly uncomfortable. But I guess I'm a little strange.)
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Posted By: JoeMc
Date Posted: 9/14/08 at 6:52am
I missed the Mark of your topic, as well, drose. Unfortunately it is like that when one gets to my age.
No they did not stay in the character of the role. I believe this is when the actor steps out of character.
Many years ago, way back when. We had a Director who would not give a Finale curtain Call to an actor, if the character was done away with or he/she fell off the perch, during the show. Which to my mind this missed completely, the point of the call & bouncing the House Rag.
------------- [western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}
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Posted By: MartyW
Date Posted: 9/15/08 at 11:48am
As we talked about in a previous curtain call post, it does depend on the show in many cases... Take Hello Dolly which, like many shows of the period, are written with the curtain call as a finale ultimo... They are most definitly character calls.. And I agree with some of the previous posters, sometimes the tone of a show can beg for an over the top curtain done by the characters.. We too had a show once with an evil character that was booed on curtain and both the audince AND the actor loved the response...
------------- Marty W
"Till next we trod the boards.."
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Posted By: KEB54
Date Posted: 9/15/08 at 2:34pm
Out.
For me the exception would be a tableau curtain call.
------------- KEB
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Posted By: MartyW
Date Posted: 9/16/08 at 9:31am
I don't think (until they codify some sort of theater law) that you will ever find a one size fits all answer to everything... You just go through life, picking and choosing those things that work and or appeal to you... (and hopefully, your audience.)
------------- Marty W
"Till next we trod the boards.."
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Posted By: jaytee060
Date Posted: 9/16/08 at 11:18am
Frankly, I have seen it done both way. Both work for me. My only rule for curtain calls is "MAKE IT FAST" Take your bows and let the audience go home.
------------- "REMEMBER ME IN LIGHT"
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Posted By: KEB54
Date Posted: 9/16/08 at 5:19pm
Posted By: doublezero420
Date Posted: 10/10/08 at 11:11am
My personal opinion is that the curtain call is the aknowlegement of the actors and their abilities, not the caracters. Therefore, I always have the cast take their bows out-of-character.
There are also directors in my CT that will absolutly blow a fuse if anyone "drops character" before the "last final" curtain.
------------- aaron
“One of my chief regrets during my years in the theater is that I could not sit in the audience and watch me” -John Barrymore
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Posted By: RoseColored Gla
Date Posted: 10/27/08 at 11:44am
I'm one for curtain calls being out of character, but you can't ever use a blanket policy for curtain calls. Sometimes an out of character curtain call will completely break the audience's psyche. I'll explain, don't worry.
In college, we did Zastrossi, Master of Discipline The show is extremely dark, and in the end, everyone dies but the villain. Our scene changes were done by stage crew dressed in monks robes, and during a 'blue out' so the audience could see the actor, who just had the life beat out of him, get up and walk off. This was done to alleviate the oppression of the show. In the final scene, every single character is killed, onstage, and each in a brutal manor. They had blood all over them. Our curtain call had the stage hands come on, take a bow (since they were seen, and therefore kinda like characters), then they went to each of the actors and 'raised them from the dead' and they just stood there, with a blank stare on their face, illuminated by a strategically placed light. Black out. Actors exit.
Now, put yourself in the audience's place. how would you have felt if this person you had just seen stabbed to death got up with blood streaming down his face and started smiling and bowing as if nothing had ever happened? would have ruined it for me.
THis show, btw, was the pres of the university's favorite show that the theater department had ever done.
------------- Dennis Dippary
Artistic Director
Songs for a New World http://rosecoloredglassestheater.com - RoseColored Glasses
May Dionysus smile upon your every performance!
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Posted By: Cravens
Date Posted: 11/03/08 at 4:39pm
It usually depends on the show, if it is a fun show, the actor naturally comes out in character, otherwise they come out as a happy self.
------------- Tracy
www.longmonttheatre.org
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