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Topic: What is a good amount to pay a musical director
Posted By: everyman
Subject: What is a good amount to pay a musical director
Date Posted: 6/27/07 at 11:22am
I am looking for a ball park figure really. Its for a Queens, NY program. Also for Choreographer too.



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Posted By: TonyDi
Date Posted: 6/28/07 at 8:26am
WOW!  THAT is such a loaded question.  Frankly, it's what you can afford and it depends on how much work the music director has to put in.  From MY experiences, I've been paid as music director/vocal director/keyboardist/rehearsal pianist as little as $350 and as much as $1,500 bucks.  Of course, it will vary.  If you have a music director that has to put in the time start to finish then a grand is not out of the question.  If they're just going to do orch rehearsals close to the opening (usually we've done the production week with orch - Sunday - Sunday with the opening on Thursdays and the run of the show) then it might be less.  BUT still you're paying for their expertise and how do you put a price on that without insulting someone?  I've been lucky to make the $1,500 bucks when I do that because I usually wind up putting in more time than I might otherwise.
 
Now if they don't know what to pay me - I will set my price and as always I CAN negotiate downward much more easily than I ever could upward.  SO if I'm asked, I will give them a price for MY involvement at least at a $1,500 bucks. Then if they can't afford that, then I have to decide first if I WANT to do it and also how I can accommodate their budget and still get the job done.  I usually ALWAYS opt to oversee EVERYTHING related to the music end of things - vocal direction, music direction, working with the chorus and soloists, working with rehearsal and audition accompanist, working with hired musicians, conducting, etc.  As MUSIC DIRECTOR - with THAT title - I expect it to be what it should be and what the director wants and the only way to do that is to have complete control over the whole shebang.  I've even played IN the orchestra on keyboard from time to time and earned as much as $350 more to play the show.  So it can be lucrative for music directors - especially good ones - and believe me they ARE few and far between.  You really do need someone well versed in musical theater styles and so forth. I've been an actor, director and techie so I've put in a fair amount of time learning this as well as having the music background I have been lucky enough to get.  If your music director is expected to hire the orchestra or whatever size group is going to play the show, AND if you expect the music director to pay the players (often the case) then the budget will have to include those who play the show as well.  And then, is the music director expected to conduct the orch??  Another question and issue that should be negotiated in the price given.
 
It's a difficult question to answer.  But you asked for a ballpark figure - and I gave you what I've earned before although I always wound up doing more work just because that's the way I do things - give them more than they pay for.  Unfair to myself? I don't think so.  Makes for return gigs when you do that.  Now as to the choreographer - we've paid as little as $100 bucks up to and including $500 bucks for a choreographer.  Again however, it depends upon the complexity of what's needed and their involvement in putting it together including their time investment.
 
Hope that gives you some ideas.
 
 
TonyDi


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Posted By: everyman
Date Posted: 6/28/07 at 8:33am
and what about supporting band members?


Posted By: TonyDi
Date Posted: 7/02/07 at 10:07am
Well since I was involved most of the time as music director on occasion when I DID play a show I got as much as $350-$550 for three weeks of rehearsals and shows.  That's the MOST I ever got. If you go with 'union' rates it's really a lot more.  Used to be about $35 bucks an hour for two hours. Then4 shows the first week, with three the following two weeks or that calcuates to close to $700 bucks for a run. So if they're not union you can pay less over the run.  This is what jacks up the prices of doing musicals which why we only did one a year for the most part.
 
HOPE that answers your question
 
TonyDi
 


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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 7/03/07 at 4:50am
A realy good & even great amount to pay is;- 'Appluase'!

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Posted By: Tallsor
Date Posted: 7/03/07 at 9:36am

If you want a ballpark figure for Kansas City area, KC Stage Magazine did an article last June: http://www.kcstage.com/?a=Magazine&op=View&md=Article&aid=589&back=Index&relmonth=-12&sid=1183469663 - How to Succeed in Community Theatre and Get Paid for It .

(Full disclosure - I volunteer with KC Stage.)
 
But it does talk about how much average pay was for community theatre jobs (Director, Music Director, Choreographer, Accompanist, Designers, Stage Manager). The biggest isssue was with the budget of the theatre as a whole.



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