yellow brick road for Wizard
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Topic: yellow brick road for Wizard
Posted By: kmdded
Subject: yellow brick road for Wizard
Date Posted: 1/18/07 at 10:24am
I am directing a children's theater production of Wizard of Oz. We are renting out the theater space and I am having trouble with how to do the yellow brick road. I had someone recommend masonite. Any other suggestions?
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Posted By: dboris
Date Posted: 1/18/07 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by kmdded
I am directing a children's theater production of Wizard of Oz. We are renting out the theater space and I am having trouble with how to do the yellow brick road. I had someone recommend masonite. Any other suggestions?
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Masonite or luan plywood would be good options, they are both pretty thin, so people aren't as likely to trip on them. You might have to put something on the back to help prevent them from sliding. The other option is ground cloth, a large piece of canvas which is painted and streached over the stage.
Dan
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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 1/19/07 at 1:13am
With the board, it can be under gaffer taped, depending upon how
long it is needed in the scene. Also with paint on the finished side of
these boards, they can become rather slippery.
Using a sugar soft drink in the wash water, will give it an anti-skid factor.
Or set up resin boxes for the performers to step in prior to entrance. However resin gets everywhere & can become a pain!
With stage cloths being able to anchor them is paramount & is not achieved that quickly, for just a scene.
Assuming you may use a back cloth scenically painted.
Have you considered using ‘black light [UV] to bring out the yellow brick road on the back drop.
Rosco do a number of invisible colours, that are depicted with UV light.
------------- Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}
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Posted By: suzecue1
Date Posted: 1/19/07 at 10:29am
We did "The Wiz" for our children's theatre workshop. We bought yellow tape (the kind that doesn't leave a gummy residue) and made "bricks" on the floor and down the steps. Our stage is small so when the kids did the "yellow brick road" songs they just went down one set of stairs, around the front of the stage and up the other set of stairs back onto the stage. It worked well and gave the image of a brick road. Worked nicely for the blocking too.
------------- Sue
*****
So many hats.....so few heads!
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Posted By: EddyZ
Date Posted: 1/21/07 at 12:27am
Assuming that the only scenery used before landing in Oz is perhaps Dorothy's house, I'd paint the road on the stage, and place the "house" scenery on platforms w/casters (trucks?) over top of it. This would serve several purposes:
1. To make it *really* easy to make the road; 2. To hide the road while in Kansas; 3. To let you spin the house around "in the tornado;" 4. To let you move the house *off* the road when it "lands" in Oz, giving you the road and the house for the initial scene in Oz; and 5. So you can truck off the house when they start venturing down the road.
(On a totally unrelated note, I just had a mental image of using a stuffed animal on a remote controlled car chassis to play the part of Toto. Would certainly beat messing with a real dog. Hee!)
------------- EddyZ
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Posted By: MikeO
Date Posted: 1/21/07 at 8:27pm
kmdded,
Any easy option would be to use brick pattern paneling. Paint it yellow and put some sand in the paint to make the surface non-slip.
------------- I'd rather act, but they found out I can do tech & sets!!
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Posted By: kmdded
Date Posted: 1/21/07 at 9:39pm
We can't paint the stage as we are renting the facility. Can someone explain masonite to me. Sorry to plead ignorance but what is it and do I get it at like a Home Depot? I liked the idea of a ground cloth and a staple gun but am afraid of kids tripping on it. Thanks all of you for your suggestions.
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Posted By: kmdded
Date Posted: 1/21/07 at 9:40pm
Hey along the same lines....ideas for the sparks that come of the wicked witch's hands when she touches the ruby slippers, and when she throws a fire ball at scarecrow.....remember I am dealing with kids between the ages of 7 and 15.
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Posted By: bmiller025
Date Posted: 1/21/07 at 10:40pm
Masonite is an inexpensive flat, smooth material - it comes in a couple of thicknesses, just under 1/8" and I think 3/16" or so. The thicker stuff costs about $11-12 per 4x8 sheet at Home Depot. It can be used to cover flats, but doesn't do as good a job as the more expensive luan, which is a very thin plywood with a very smooth finish. Masonite doesn't have as much "structural integrity"
Masonite is used best as a cover for platforms to provide a smooth surface for dancers. Regular plywood is often a lot more rough, and can catch costumes and toes with its unevenness. If you wanted to paint your stage floor, you could do it very well, and most cheaply with masonite. The stuff needs to sit on a very even surface, as it can break off over a sharp edge below. I usually tape the pieces together with good gaffers tape when covering a floor, and then painting the whole thing to my hearts desire. If the floor is good, you won't even need to screw the stuff down much, if at all.
For the spark effect, for that age group, I would suggest a high powered LED flashlight with fiber optic strands that the witch could easily turn on and off with a momentary contact switch in her hands. The scene would need to be a bit on the dark side to work best, and doing a pyrotechnic effect would very likely cost a lot less, but the LED system would likely put up with a lot more abuse, and would absolutely not catch anyone on fire.
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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 1/22/07 at 2:56am
Use a flash paper shooting fire wand, these are available from magic shops, also they are very safe to use & cheap enough!
http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=1851
------------- Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}
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Posted By: Techiemama
Date Posted: 1/23/07 at 2:45am
Masonite is basically pegboard without the holes. :)
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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 1/24/07 at 9:24pm
Here is an idea for the yellow brick road:
http://beehive.courier.co.uk/default.asp?WCI=SiteHome&ID=2512&PageID=71783
from the Amdram site:- http://www.amdram.co.uk/forums/index.php?
------------- Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}
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Posted By: kmdded
Date Posted: 2/08/07 at 12:31pm
Okay, I am going with the Masonite. Now, honestly this is my first time doing any "set construction" on my own. For colors of the yellow brick road I am thinking of a yellow base with some burnt sienna brown lightly painted over it and then do brown lines to form like irregular bricks more like stone...then spray it with a sparkle spray. I also want to use the idea about coke wash to keep it from being slick.
Okay, you artrists out there. Thoughts? I am open to suggestions.
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Posted By: Techiemama
Date Posted: 2/08/07 at 1:23pm
Hi,
We spent hours and hours trying to come up with a yellow brick road. When it was all said and done, we revealed the front of the stage as the road, but as it all turned out, it was only visible from the first couple rows. If you are laying the road directly on the stage, it is a good idea to look at it from all over the house to see where it can be seen from, otherwise your hard work and effect may be totally lost. We had other neat things about that show, but the road never was what we wanted it to be.
Good luck and have a great show!
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Posted By: kmdded
Date Posted: 2/08/07 at 1:35pm
Hmm. Good point. We are going to have the road on the stage and coming down the steps in front and out the side door so maybe the steps will be helpful. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted By: theaterhelper
Date Posted: 2/09/07 at 4:24pm
Not quite sparks, but if you cut up mylar (paper with a shiny tin-foil kind of surface, but softer and more sturdy) into small pieces and put it in a balloon then inflate it and then let go or pop it, under stage light you get a sparky kind of effect with absolutly no danger factor.
Also, I'd suggest masonite above luaun, because luaun could give both actors and people handling it splinters. Luaun is also more likely to warp after being painted on one side without any framing attached. Masonite is what we'd use in professional theater. Masonite is a smooth surface, but if you don't use glossy paint it isn't that slippery. It's usually much cheaper if you go to a real lumber yard and not Home Depot... and prices vary regionally.
I would be concerned about use of a "ground cloth," both because it is likely to wrinkle and trip actors.
Perhaps, if you haven't bought anything yet your best and safest option would be to use yellow carpet with the cracks between the bricks stencil painted on and the overall shape cut to the shape of your road.
However, since you say you're going with maso, to paint:
1. Texture always looks better on stage than flat color. Yellow is not as opaque as other colors. I would get 2 or 3 shades of yellow/ gold/ orange and a spongy roller cover and roller (looks like a sea sponge attached to a roller), pour the colors into 3 pans, and then use the sponge in all three colors. Dip and roll the first color until you're running low on paint on the sponge, and then dip into the second and work it over the same area a little, and then the same with the third and then move along on the surface. If you work it too much it will all blend into one muddy, flat color, but if you achieve the right balance it will be a stunning texture under light.
2. Lay out your bricks on the dry surface. Charcoal is a great layout material, because you can remove it with a damp (or even a dry) cloth if you make a mistake. Make sure you keep your lines straight or it will be very obvious in your final product. The "horizontals" on your bricks should all line up, but the "verticals" should be staggered. Staggering 1/3 of a brick from row to row tends to work best.
3. To achieve the cracks, if you use black and just do lines it will look very cartoony. If you are looking for closer to realism, you will want to paint highlight and shadows. Get a thin brush. Water down your paint a little and it will be easier to keep your lines clean, and it will also allow your paint to not look pasty on the surface and the cracks will look more natural. Use a dark brown, almost black but not quite, for the cracks. Sometimes break the crack line or vary the widths slightly but gradually and organically. If you're working on a very big stage, your cracks want to be 1/2-3/4 of an inch wide. In a very intimate space, sometimes you don't need to paint at all because a sharpee or other permanent marker can achieve the right width. If you're really nervous about painting straght lines, they make a marker called the "Magnum 44" that will make a line 1/2" wide, and it does come in a variety of colors including brown, but you might need to order that over the internet. If you use the marker, it is especially important to break your lines, fading down to thinner width by tilting the marker to fade out and in.
4. When you've finished the shadows, it's time to highlight. Take a very watery white, or a less watery cream and either a Q-Tip or a small brush. Pick a "direction" that the light is coming from. The yellow edges closest to that direction against the shadows want to be highlighted. Again, use a broken line... not a dotted line, but not solid either. The widest your highlights want to be for a large space is probably 3/8 of an inch.
5. If any of the shadow edges need cleaning up at the end, a sharpee can be used.
6. There are a few options for your sparkle. You could insert a sparkly spatter before you make the cracks, or do it now at the end. OR, you could mix mica powder into a seal coat. If your show practices a lot on the road, or runs for a lot of nights, you want to seal your paint job with a clear coat, like a clear poly, or clear acrylic. Use latex based paint and clearcoat (Latex, acrylic, or water-based poly) so it drys fast and you can clean up easily. DO NOT USE A FAN ON A CLEAR COAT. Clear coats go on kind of white in color, but then dry clear. The top layer can dry so fast with a fan that it seals moisture underneath, which never dries and stays cloudy forever, ruining your paint job.
For the sparkle, I suggest not using glitter... it's messy and falls off. Mica powders mix well into clear coats, and will last forever. You can control how sparkley you get by how much you add. You'll probably have to buy WAY more than you need. Another option is to mix some into a clearcoat, water the clearcoat down a bit and spatter it. (Or get a metallic paint or glaze, water it down and spatter it.) Rosebrand is a great company to get this from... but Home Depot will carry the glazes.
To spatter, water your paint down to the consistantsy of skim milk. Take a larger brush and dip it in. Tap the flat, hard part of the brush against your hand (not the narrow side), about three feet above the surface you are painting and keep it moving around over the surface so you don't get blobby. (Always do a test tap off to the side after every dip, until you know how to feel if there's too much in the brush. The first tap can be very blobby if you have too much paint.) The goal is to get lots of little raindrops on the surface. Take breaks to let it dry, because if you do too much too fast it will all bleed together
Another option is to water your paint down and put it in a garden sprayer (the kind you'd use for pesticides) and play with the tip to adjust the spray until you get a fine rain. Again, keep it moving and don't get too wet and heavy too fast to prevent bleeding. If the sprayer spits a lot, you probably didn't water down your paint a lot. After a spatter, you definitley want to seal it, as watered down paint will wear off more quickly.
Hope that helps.
Laura
------------- Shed some light on the dark side of theatre at theaterhelper.com.
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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 2/10/07 at 1:42am
Me thinks from your posts from your posts your more than a ‘theatrehelper’?
I prefer hardboard [aka Masonite, Burney board & other propriety
brand names] Unlike chipboard or MDF which are made of compressed
hydroscopic fibres & absorb moisture in the air, unless complete
sealed. Especially unsealed chipboard which becomes pregnant overnight
& self destructs when dried out, wouldn’t be great if it produced
chipboard off spring!
MDF is reacts in a similar away except it expands dramatically &
contracts in a similar fashion, giving the impression it has grown legs
& started walking.
[Like the expansion/contraction of hemp & fibre fly hauling lines]
Also masonite with it’s rough textured backing, offers resistance to walking & movement on the deck.
Unfortunately like most particle pressed board, as previously
mentioned, strip layers will come away & flake over time. But for
complete stage covering use it is ideal. Without lumps & bumps, no
mater what the atmospheric conditions.
I love to use cheap plastic garden pressurised spray bottles, with the
plunger pump pressurised. They are small & handy for oodles of
stage & scenic applications. From wetting down drop cloths &
getting wrinkles out or using as paint sprayer with an adjustable spray
delivery type selection nossle.
Also you can afford to have a number of them set up & stored with
different colour paints, for quick touch ups during the season. Being
air tight, a quick shake & pump up - your in business, with no
messy cleaning up of the gear. Just ensure the nossle is kept clean
& you have a little test on some waste material first.
Bewdy Laura g’donya!
------------- Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}
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Posted By: theaterhelper
Date Posted: 2/12/07 at 1:54pm
You have a good point... the masonite with one rough side will be less likely to slip. In this area, you would be looking specifically for "single tempered masonite" for that particular product. The other kind with two smooth sides is "double tempered," and I tend to have an easier time finding the double tempered in stock here, but perhaps that varies by location.
You don't usually want to mix the two, as single tempered runs just a touch thicker even though the measurment they call it is the same... and it's just enough of a difference for things that are being dragged rolled to catch on and hurt your edges.
Also, if you do go with masonite, instruct the people handling it to be careful about setting it down on corners, or your corners will quickly become very yucky. It also is best keep it in some sort of vertical or on-edge fashion when you carry it around, because if you let it bounce around and flex too much, that is when it is most likely to break.
Laura
(Oh, and is it wrong to be more than a 'theaterhelper' in this forum? I do love theater in all forms!)
Laura
------------- Shed some light on the dark side of theatre at theaterhelper.com.
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Posted By: Karin
Date Posted: 2/12/07 at 4:53pm
We did a wonderful production of the Wizard of Oz. For the yellow brick road we purchased 15 yards of bright yellow plastic sheeting.... the kind that is purchased by the yard for plastic tablecloths. The fabric was stiff and was cut to the desired shape we wanted. I don't know where you are from but we have a discount store in our area... Building 19 and it can be purchased for a dollar a yard. I understand Walmart also carries it.
Good luck!
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Posted By: kmdded
Date Posted: 2/15/07 at 10:45am
did you buy this from the fabric section of the store or outdoors?
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Posted By: Karin
Date Posted: 2/15/07 at 3:16pm
Yes. I purchased it from the fabric deparment of building 19 in Worcester, massachusetts.
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Posted By: Karin
Date Posted: 2/20/07 at 8:32am
I don't know where you are from, but if you are interested in purchasing the yellow plastic tablecloth.... they had 6 rolls of it in Worcester, Massachusetts Building 19 yesterday when I was there. It was either $1.00 or #1.50 a yard. Can't beat that!
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Posted By: theatremonkey
Date Posted: 6/21/08 at 10:51pm
We had multiple pieces of fabric with a yellow brick design painted on them this also made the illusion of the many paths that dorothy couuld take when she finds the scarecrow
good luck
------------- theatre monkey
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Posted By: Egstheater
Date Posted: 6/26/08 at 10:07pm
We did Wizard of Oz a few years back & opted out of putting a "road" on stage, as no one in the audience could see it anyway. We did however create a "yellow brick road" ramp up one side of the stairs leading on stage & Dorothy skipped in & out of the audience when she traveled the road. We used the wooden stair frames you can buy at Home Depot or Lowes & plywood to make the ramp, inverting the stair frames to rest on the theater steps. Then painted it yellow with lines for brick.
hope this helps!
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Posted By: kthuerbach
Date Posted: 6/27/08 at 12:16am
We are doing Wizard in the Spring 2009. Has anyone used the tornado that ZFX has available?
Also available at magic shops are the flint sparkers that kids can wear on their fingers and they shoot sparks. We used it in Snow White and it worked great. It has a little button on it that fits in the palm of their hand and when they push it with their finger the sparks fly!
Isn't anyone out there doing Peter Pan????!!! We have a great set/props for rent!!!!
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Posted By: YPTHelper
Date Posted: 6/28/08 at 12:03am
Yes, we did Wizard last year and used three pieces of masonite that had the brick embossing. We cut them into 'S' shapes, painted them yellow, and pieced them together as needed so it ran through various scenes.
YPT Helper
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Posted By: DFTDONNA
Date Posted: 7/07/08 at 4:12pm
If you do go the pyrotechnic route, go to TheatreFX.com. They have flash wands, flash paper and spark ejectors. They are amazing! The spark ejector could be hazardous for young kids but if you had a place for an adult to hide, they could set it off at the right time. Where are you located? I have both from a previous production that we could rent to you if you are near Chicago.
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