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Directing and Acting in the Same Play.

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Topic: Directing and Acting in the Same Play.
Posted By: GoldCanyonLady
Subject: Directing and Acting in the Same Play.
Date Posted: 1/15/07 at 12:50pm
We just saw a wonderful performance here in Arizona by an actor who also directed the play, Come Blow Your Horn. Isn't that difficult to do? How does one go about seeing how the action looks when you are in the middle of it?




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Barb Hofmeister,
MountainBrook Village Players, Gold Canyon, Arizona.



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Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 1/15/07 at 2:21pm
A good friend of mine is an actor/director who does this sort of thing often.  What he always does is hire an Assistant Director (usually a college student who is trying to break into directing).  This AD is assigned to watch the Director ONLY while he's acting and give him notes as to blocking, line readings, etc.  If the AD has notes for the OTHER actors, he/she is required to give them to the Director FIRST to see if he agrees or noticed something different.  The Director will then give the AD's notes to the cast member.
 
This prevents actors from getting conflicting information and establishes the director as the head honcho of the piece.
 
During tech week, however, the Director's attention is split between performing and watching.  So he will pre-set as much of the lighting and sound cues as possible and then hand over the reins to the AD who will be responsible for seeing the play comes together.
 
Needless to say, the fellow is very talented in both the acting and directing departments, so his confidence level is high.  And it also helps that he happens to be one of the most laid-back, even-tempered individuals I've ever met.  Working on his productions is always a pleasure.


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"None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone


Posted By: Linda S
Date Posted: 1/15/07 at 5:08pm
Some people are better at directing and acting in a show then others. I call  it cooking from inside the pot. I have found myself in shows that I was directing twice, never by choice. I don't like it. I am not comfortable.  I only did it because I had to, and I hope I never have to do it again. 
 
I do have dear friend that is often in shows that he is directing. He calls me in to watch and take notes a couple of times during the rehearsal process, and he is always very good and relaxed. He is also " laid-back and even-tempered." I think those qualities are a must. He also works with an amazing stage manager.  In the last show, he did have a monitor so he could watch the on stage action from backstage. I don't think it is for everyone. It is certainly not for me. I do admire those that can do it though.
 
Linda


Posted By: TimW
Date Posted: 1/16/07 at 1:50am
I would agree with the general census. If you are a level headed person and have a good assistant or stage manager, it could work. I tech'd a show within the past year, and the director/lead actor didn't ask for much input. Unfortunately, I don't think it went as good as it could have. So to those that can succesfully do both, many kudos! 


Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 1/16/07 at 9:44am
It's happened to me three times - all for reasons of emergency; I have never cast myself LOL.

I hated it. I do have a good friend who is a director who helped me out - but, the truth is, when I'm acting, I NEED a good director, not just somebody to clean up the blocking LOL. So, my cast was shorted by me as director, and I shorted myself as an actor.

I hated it. It may happen again ... but I hope not.


Posted By: suzecue1
Date Posted: 1/16/07 at 10:14am
Been there - done that - and I wouldn't suggest it.  I am very organized, very much a multi-tasker - and thought it wouldn't be a problem. Point is, you just can't see the big picture of what is happening on stage when you are on the stage.
 
Over Christmas I co-directed (and produced) a Christmas show, with both of us in the show. We had just been in the show the Christmas before and knew it inside and out. We thought it would be a piece of cake because we had done it before! For the first month of rehearsals, I could sit out, call out my lines, block and give direction while watching. But later on, tech week rehearsals, when I needed to be on stage too, it was very hard.  Another thing to remember...when you are in the wings, trying to stay in character, trying remember your next line, trying to remember what props you need, it doesn't help to have 20 other cast members asking you questions about what they need to have or where they need to be.
 
I did end up depending on a few other people to watch and take notes during tech week, which was very helpful, but it isn't the same.  Someone else is not going to see the same things you would.  BTW - the show ended up to be fabulous, but the frustration level was unbelievable up to that point. Maybe a smaller cast, non-musical would be doable. But I don't think I will be trying that again! Thumbs%20Down


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Sue
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So many hats.....so few heads!


Posted By: 75director
Date Posted: 1/16/07 at 2:41pm
I would echo the comments about directing and acting not being an ideal situation.  I've had to be in a few of my own shows due to various reason and I really don't like it.  It also requires the director to be twice as organized.
 
When I've had to do it, I always make sure I have a strong and experienced stage management team to give me input during the process.  Usually I have someone who has worked with me before and knows my "style".  Some people would have an assistant director for this sort of thing, which works too.
 
Not that I would ever set up a video camera in a theatre, but in theory I also tape run throughs during the process and every tech week rehearsal.  I watch the tape after the rehearsal and give notes at the top of the next rehearsal.  The actors never are allowed to see the tapes, which I tape over every night.  Of course that's all hypothetical, cuz no one video tapes Wink


Posted By: B-M-D
Date Posted: 1/16/07 at 4:17pm
I'd have to agree with most everyone on this topic.   Wouldn't do it unless I had no other choice.   I don't have the patience or arrogance to think I could do both at the same time.

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BD

"Dying is easy, comedy is hard."


Posted By: NagarWSF
Date Posted: 1/18/07 at 2:47pm
Yeah, I'd have to agree too. Not to mention that my ADD kicks in. I actually need to focus on the big picture at times. And when I am acting, I need to be able to focus on what I am doing, and what my scene partner is doing. That is why I stopped acting!Smile I was often finding myself thinking about everyone else's parts, and the stage picture, and the overall pacing, and the set and the lights, and etc. It seemed logical for me to direct, and it has been the best switch for me. Being able to work onthe big picture helps me see the details! May not make sense, but hey! So, no I would never cast myself or direct myself. It can be done, but not by me!
 
Sandy


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Working Class Theatre Company
www.workingclasstheatre.org


Posted By: red diva
Date Posted: 1/18/07 at 4:46pm
I agree with all those that are nay-sayers on this topic.  The only time I did it was when two of my cast members had to "leave town" very "suddenly" when the local gendarmes were carrying on a rather extensive drug sweep in our town.  This was the week before opening, and I had to step into one of the roles, and find a man to step into the other.  I HATED it!!!  Not only was I unable to enjoy watching the fruits of our labors, but I was unable to spend the last week "fine tuning" and tightening up the production.
 
I really feel that if you are going to be a good director, you need to be out in the house, watching what's happening on stage.  If you are on stage, you can't see the pictures, the blocking, the ensemble.....etc., etc., etc.
 
But, that's just me!


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"I've worked long and hard to earn the right to be called Diva!"



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