Opening Nights
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Topic: Opening Nights
Posted By: k8tt
Subject: Opening Nights
Date Posted: 11/01/05 at 2:08pm
I am considering advising our Community Theatre Board to change opening nights for our next season from Fridays to Saturdays. We are finding our adult cast members (most of whom work during the weekdays) just exhausted by Friday and unable to give out the amount of energy required for a great opening night performance.
They rebound on Saturdays and for the Sunday matinees (our best performance times energy-wise) but then by the next Friday are lackluster again. Any other theatres have this problem?
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Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 11/02/05 at 2:58am
Nope. We run dress on Tues & Wed ... and run Thurs, Fri, Sat.
Not only that, but historically our best attended shows have always
been Fridays. We figure that it's the end of the week, people go
out to eat and see the show. That leaves Saturday for them to
kick back or do whatever.
Case in point ... just finished a run where on the second week we had 132 for Thursday, 185 for Friday, and 132 for Saturday.
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Posted By: dboris
Date Posted: 11/02/05 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by k8tt
I am considering advising our Community Theatre Board to change opening nights for our next season from Fridays to Saturdays. We are finding our adult cast members (most of whom work during the weekdays) just exhausted by Friday and unable to give out the amount of energy required for a great opening night performance.
They rebound on Saturdays and for the Sunday matinees (our best performance times energy-wise) but then by the next Friday are lackluster again. Any other theatres have this problem?
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Yes, in my experience Saturday's are normally the best performances, but it should not be necessary to give up your opening Friday. One of the directors that I work with a lot actually gives the cast off on the day before opening. This might seem scary to some directors, but I can say from experience that it works, a day of rest may actaully do more good then a day of rehersal at that point.
Another downside to shortening your opening weekend is that your reduce the amount of "word of mouth" that gets out about your show. The more people that see a show opening weekend, the more work of mouth that will help drive sales for the rest of the run.
Dan
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Posted By: looking2bcast
Date Posted: 11/02/05 at 2:15pm
We run a pick up rehersal on Thursdays and that seems to motivate the crew more but we have found that our audience isnt as big on the Firdays for the same type of reasons. So we too are thinkig about geting rid of the Friday performances.
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Posted By: k8tt
Date Posted: 11/03/05 at 12:33pm
Perhaps a dress rehearsal on the Wednesday instead of the Thursday would be better for a Friday opening. One of our problems is that we don't have our own theatre space and have to rent, so we want to get the most out of our time. We cram a lot into those few days before opening night. Too much, maybe.
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Posted By: Wishbone
Date Posted: 11/03/05 at 8:27pm
My director always does a Wednesday rehearsal, Thursday is free, and then opens on Friday. It works very well.
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Posted By: dougb
Date Posted: 11/04/05 at 11:54am
We do our dress rehearsal on Thursday and have opening night on
Friday. We pay royalties for the dress rehearsal, call it a
"Sneak Preview" and invite another non-profit to use it as a fund
raiser for their organization. Some make a big dinner out of it
and charge $25 a person others just put a premium on the ticket
price. In either case the other non-profit keeps all the
money. All it costs us is $60 for the royalties. In return
we get a good audience out for fun for our dress rehearsal which helps
us a lot.
Our closing night almost always sells out so we started having closing
night on Sunday night. We have great houses on both Saturday and
on Sunday.
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Posted By: castMe
Date Posted: 11/04/05 at 11:49pm
The theaters I work in typically run Thur, Fri and Sat with a few Sun matin?es thrown in. When I direct, I NEVER rehearse the night before we open. This goes back to when I was single and needed the evening to catch up on my laundry so I didn't stink to high heaven on opening night, but I found my casts loved having that night off. Most of our actors have day jobs and Wed night off is just enough to keep them fresh. I have heard some actors say they need that Wed rehearsal, but my feeling is no one is going to forget the show in one night and the benefits out-weigh the cost. I schedule additional rehearsals early on in the process. If need be you can always call in one or more actors (I always tell them to keep that date open) to run scenes that need additional work, but my feeling is if you ain't ready on Wednesday, no way in hell will you be ready on Thursday.
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Posted By: Wishbone
Date Posted: 3/20/06 at 7:53pm
Well, it would really depend on your personal situation.
Questions to ask....
Is your Friday night your best attended show?.....Is it the worst attended?.....Could you afford to lose your Friday night audiance?.....Is there another possible solution to the problem?.....Could you possible make Friday a "sneak peak" dress rehearsal and charge less?
Another thing you could do is get a piece of paper. Make two columns. Label them "Pro" and "Con". Lists the pros and cons of not having a Friday show. This will make it easier to make a final decision.
Hope I have helped!
Wishbone
------------- Once upon a time I was a shy young thing
Could barely walk and talk so much as dance and sing
But let me hit that stage I wanna take my bow
Cause Momma I'm a big girl now - "Hairspray"
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Posted By: Mike Polo
Date Posted: 3/21/06 at 8:40am
We run our dress on Wednesday, then leave it to the director's discretion as to what to do Thursday night... Personally, I hate having a dark night but I also don't want a cast that's wiped for opening night. I like to run a line rehearsal on the Thursday before opening. No blocking, no acting, just lines. It's tough mentally, because you're used to doing the lines while moving (I've had some actors who HAVE to get up and move for certain sections), but rather relaxing otherwise. Most casts try to get through it as fast as possible. It usually takes about an hour. They walk out feeling more secure in their lines, and I am sure that they've gone over them.
------------- Mike Polo
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Posted By: Linda S
Date Posted: 3/21/06 at 9:44am
With me it depends on which theater I am working in. The theater that has a Thursday opening night has a better opening night attendance then the theater that has a Friday night. I think that has more to do with the ability to advertise effectively. . . That is a whole other subject about the business end of running a theater. When I have cooled off from my last experience I want to post something about it. . . Anyway, I always run my final week with a final run thru, a dress, a full dress, then I don't schedule anything for the day before we open. That way I have 48 hours to fix anything that needs fixing: lights, costumes whatever. I have used that day for just about everything at one time or another. Once I actually stayed home and caught up on some sleep. I have never had actors on stage the night before we open.
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Posted By: B-M-D
Date Posted: 3/25/06 at 1:59pm
We open on a Friday and have the Thursday prior to opening off. Most theatre's I've worked with usually have the night prior to opening off. As both an actor and director I like having that off day prior to opening to have the rest.
I also don't like having pick-up rehearsals between weekends. I've never had a pick up, brush up or speed thru between weekends that was even marginally beneficial. They are a myth and a security blanket for those that haven't done their work during the normal rehearsal process. If you need more rehearsal after being away from the show for only four or five days then something is fundamentally wrong. As a director I don't have them and actors are grateful for it.
------------- BD
"Dying is easy, comedy is hard."
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Posted By: jphock
Date Posted: 3/26/06 at 12:12am
I agree. Brush-up rehearsals are a collosal waste of time. Quite honestly...an extra day off would make me more refreshed for a second weekend of performances than a brush up rehearsal. Sadly, I'm but a lowly actor and just do as I'm told when it comes to these things.
One day though...one day...when I rule the world...all brush up rehearsals will be BANISHED.
I'm sorry...did I say that out loud? Excuse me....got caught up in the moment.
Anyway....
One group I work with actually does what we call an "Unplugged" brush up. All of the great comedic things you want to do during the run of the show but just can't...this is the time. For example...I rewrote the lyrics to the song "A Bit Of Earth" from The Secret Garden to be "I bit a Smurf". There was all sorts of clowning. It was probably one of the most hilarious experiences of my life.
Beneficial? Not even a little bit. Good time? Heck yeah!
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Posted By: Mike Polo
Date Posted: 3/26/06 at 7:19am
As an actor, I used to feel the same way... however, as a director, I've seen the difference a brush-up makes. The first performance of the weekend is crisper, the pacing is better and the actors are more confident. That means the show is better and the audience goes away happier.
We also used to do your "unplugged" rehearsal, do the jokes we wanted to do during the regular rehearsal... That was FUN! But the shows suffered for it... our timing was off, our pacing sloppy. I didn't really feel it as an actor, but as a director, I saw it.
So I changed the way I ran a brush-up... first brush is a serious brush. The second one (depending on the quality of the shows and the caliber of the actors) is a little looser. However, if I feel like things are going downhill, I call a stop to the proceedings and we go back over the spot that had problems.
Most of our directors have started taking the same approach. We still have a good time, and the audiences get a great show, no matter what night they come. And for me, that's the bottom line.
The flip side of the argument? When I'm acting, that last brush can still get a little loose... at least until the director tells me to behave.
------------- Mike Polo
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Posted By: Shatcher
Date Posted: 3/28/06 at 5:23pm
I like the idea of an unplugged brush up. I used to work with a theatre company who every closing night told the cast and crew that anything goes. The cast goes nuts. it was pretty bad when we did Rocky Horror show!!. Must say as an SM I HATED THIS!!!!!!! nothing is worse than seeing the show go to hell in a hand basket and not being able to do anything about it. The guy who ran this company told me "everybody does this" I think not but what can you do? He was an actor before starting his company. he is now out of business
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Posted By: Topper
Date Posted: 3/28/06 at 9:28pm
I also recommend leaving a "dark night" before opening. Mike's idea of a line-through (speed-through) is also helpful.
Two reasons: 1) The cast is usually stressed out and could use a night off just to mull things over. Over-rehearsing can often lead to diminishing returns.
2) It gives the tech crew a full 24-hours of actor-free space in which to complete last-minute finishing tweaks to the set, costumes, props, lights, etc.
Everybody returns on opening night to a freshly completed set, clean costumes and an upbeat, positive spirit.
------------- "None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone
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Posted By: tristanrobin
Date Posted: 3/29/06 at 6:36am
"I used to work with a theatre company who every closing night told the cast
and crew that anything goes. The cast goes nuts."
If anybody did that to a play that I had spent my life on for 2+ months, I
would hurt them. It's not fair to ANYBODY - especially the audience who
paid to see the play that was advertised, not a frat skit parody of it.
Can you tell I'm appalled? LOL
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Posted By: k8tt
Date Posted: 3/29/06 at 8:49am
We often do a 'Funny Fast Forward' when we are putting on a comedy. This week we will do an Italian (why is it called that?) between weekends only because I have a couple cast members who just CANNOT keep their lines straight.
I have now changed my mind about our CT's Friday Opening Nights. This current play I am directing was sold out Opening Night (our first sell-out Opening Night in three years!), with a full house Saturday, but only half a house for the Sunday matinee (we are usually sold out on the matinees. Go figure!).
As much as I'd like to think we packed in the Opening Night audience because of my directing (LOL), I'm sure it was the mega advertising we did.
Thanks for all the thoughts!
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Posted By: Shatcher
Date Posted: 3/29/06 at 3:49pm
Tristanrobin. I could not agree more. I don't like to see the show chopped up and I don't like haveing all the tech go out the window because some actor feels they need more stage time or more laughs.!!
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Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 4/02/06 at 12:16am
I'm currently directing Forever Plaid. This is my first shot at directing. I thought that this would be a bit safer since I appeared as Jinx 6 years ago. So far ... so good.
Any and all shows I've ever been in has had two dress rehearsals preceeding the opening night. I'm going to consider giving them Wednesday night off prior to opening. I'll also consider forgetting the brush up in between weeks.
First ... I want to see how it goes. I may also give the guys the final word IF I'm convinced that the show won't suffer.
This was a timely thread.
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Posted By: eveharrington
Date Posted: 9/08/06 at 1:15am
a speed rehearsal is a great compromise between a full rehearsal and a night off, tell the cast to see how quickly they can complete the script, it makes it fun, and quick, and it is excellent for confidence in knowing your lines. Also in case anyone is still wondering, Sun. matinees are always the worst at our CT for attendance and performance energy.
------------- "If nothing else, there's applause... like waves of love pouring over the footlights."
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Posted By: VPA1
Date Posted: 10/25/06 at 12:38pm
Speed rehearsals? As a director, I dislike them as I believe they
create sloppiness in the ensuing performances. I do believe,
however, that having more than three successive days off will also
create problems...my solution was to offer a Thursday,7 PM showtime performance
for students...$5. We have a real audience, we make a couple
bucks, less pressure for a perfect performance and the cast his home
one hour earlier.
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Posted By: Linda S
Date Posted: 10/25/06 at 2:22pm
Good idea. Mind if I steal it? I think it is the perfect solution to bridging that gap between Saturday and Friday.
Linda
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Posted By: suzecue1
Date Posted: 10/25/06 at 3:11pm
I've done the speed rehearsals. They are fun, but I don't know how much they help.
The last show I directed we did a "lines-only" rehearsal in a completely dark room. NOT as a prelude to opening night, but during tech week. You sit in a dark room, with your eyes closed, so you can imagine where you are and what you are doing at that moment to keep concentration on your lines. It was fabulous. It really makes you think about what (and why) you are saying. It did wonders for some weaker characters. After the cast quit laughing at the new experience, they all settled in and loved it. Now I will do it everytime I direct.
------------- Sue
*****
So many hats.....so few heads!
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Posted By: Nanette
Date Posted: 10/27/06 at 6:17pm
I love the idea of a "lines-only in a dark room". I've done the "speed through" when we've first gotten a script and that's been great ... but never try it with a multi-age group of kids (especially those little ones who can't read ... YIKES).
I'm going to "liberate" the lines-only, though, Sue.
------------- In a world of margarine, be butter!
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Posted By: Theatrestation
Date Posted: 10/28/06 at 8:00pm
We call ours a "double time" rehearsal. I don't always use them, but if a show needs tightened it is almost always a big help. If we are doing a musical everything is double time except the production numbers.
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Posted By: jdlewallen
Date Posted: 1/14/07 at 10:53pm
I have done the speed line-throughs for every Shakespearean production I have been in, but not for others. Main reason for doing it with Shakespeare is to pick up the pace so actors don't drag it out and so the audience gets bored.
Don't know that I see a need for it in other productions, though.
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Posted By: whitebat
Date Posted: 8/14/07 at 12:01am
I think whether a "brush-up" rehearsal is worthwhile might depend on the run of your show. Our defunct CT used to do two weekends. I think one was Thurs-Fri-Sat and the other Fri-Sat-Sun matinee. As one of the younger cast members, I watched adults fool around during the rehearsals between performances. This group was horrible for playing pranks during rehearsal and the closing performance. Very unprofessional. It hasn't come up since we've been doing a one weekend run. Of course, defunct CT used to recruit actors down at the local bar, which may have had something to do with the caliber of performance.
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Posted By: bbpchick
Date Posted: 8/15/07 at 11:38pm
I think I might steal the lines in a dark room idea too! That sounds like a good alternative to a speed through.
As for brush ups...I have a story that puts them firmly in my schedule. This last spring we did "The Fantasticks" and I was them mute (best part I've ever had by they way...no lines and onstage the entire time hehe) I missed one pick up rehersal for other duties of the theater (I'm on the board and representative to the county and publicity chariman). That Friday was THE WORST show I personally have ever done in my entire time being an actor. I was tripping over things, and just off. I didn't miss any of my cues or anything like that....I was just off. I think when you have a good 4 days between performances it is a big help just to run though the show.
As for the "anything goes" attitude at the end of a run...that is totally unacceptable. Leave that for highschool. The audience pays to see a good show and it is totally uncool and disrespectful to give them anything less. Plus word will get out, and pretty soon, you won't have anyone show up for closing night.
------------- Kendra
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You are NEVER too old to dress up!
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