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The Foreigner trap door

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Topic: The Foreigner trap door
Posted By: clelia
Subject: The Foreigner trap door
Date Posted: 2/26/05 at 7:26pm

I have been volunteered for the play selection committee at small community theater.  Their stage has an 8 ft ceiling,  not much wing space and no trap door possibility. In fact the deck is covered by carpeting. It's a wretched little performance space but it's all they got. Any suggestions on how the KKK trap door scene could be handled?

 




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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 2/26/05 at 11:21pm

I reckon I?m as thick as a brick & twice as dense at times! 

But what is a ?KKK trap door??

Would this be something like a ?Priest Hole? or part of a gallows jib?

What ever it is? You could use rostra to give the same effect, by incorporating it into the set in some way!



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      Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}



Posted By: Kathy S
Date Posted: 2/27/05 at 2:22am

Apparently, "The Foreigner" by Larry Shue is not a widely produced play in Australia: is that right, Joe?  Clelia is speaking of the trap door which is used in this play which takes place in the Southern US. One of the characters is a fundamentalist preacher who also happens to be in the Ku Klux Klan.



Posted By: Spectrum
Date Posted: 2/27/05 at 6:15am
We produced THE FOREIGNER in a similarly miserable little space, 8 foot ceiling included!  What we ended up doing was creating a two foot high "landing" that went up to the rooms (off-stage).  We put the trap door in that "landing" and as the door swung down (we used a leverage system to slowly open it), the actor continued his descent by slowly squatting down and crawling out from behind.  (What we do for theatre!)  With an 8 foot ceiling, that only left 6 feet above the platform for the actors.  Fortunately, everybody on the "landing" was shorter than that.  I can be done!  Good luck.

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Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 2/27/05 at 11:16am

Your right Kathy, I have never heard of the play, but what is the trap door all about?

Is it like the access to a priest hole, used in England to hide the priests, during Cromwells purtian purge against the church of Rome?

So this would be to hide slaves or who ever, from the Ku Klux?s of the Klan?



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      Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 2/27/05 at 6:07pm

Actually the trap door is the access to the root cellar. It is very common in older american homes where they had to have cool place to store their food. In the play they keep a barrel of sauerkraut in the root cellar. The funny bit about getting the sauerkraut from the root cellar sets up the premise that it can be accessed from the trap door and also from the outside. Later in the play when the good guys are capturing the bad guys (The Klu Klux Klan) they use the trapdoor to disappear into. It is suppose to be like a ghost dematerializing or the melting of the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz. The play is hilariously funny.

When we did the play we built a thrust to accomodate the trap door. We liked the thrust so much we kept it.

Linda

 



Posted By: Gaafa
Date Posted: 2/27/05 at 8:20pm

Buewdy Linda!

I'm now a full bottler!

G'onya!



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      Joe
Western Gondawandaland
turn right @ Perth.
Hear the light & see the sound.
Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"}
May you always play
to a full house}



Posted By: belle
Date Posted: 9/13/06 at 10:59pm
We created a "secret" door, behind which was the pantry, established earlier in the play.  Then, we used a smoke machine to hide the opening of the door when the KKK guy had to disappear.  We put the pipes to the smoke machine in sconces so we could hide the opening of the door. It worked fine. BRW, it is about as logical as the trap door in the original.


Posted By: POB14
Date Posted: 9/14/06 at 9:44am

If you look at Midwestern storm cellars, the access is usually outside, through a door that is built up from the ground at about a 30 degree angle.  Look at the beginning of The Wizard of Oz, or take a look at this picture (but imagine wooden walls instead of built-up dirt):

http://www.answers.com/topic/storm-cellar-jpg - http://www.answers.com/topic/storm-cellar-jpg

No reason something like this couldn't be inside the house.

Oh, and Joe/Gaafa, go out and get the play RIGHT NOW and read it.  Get The Nerd by the same author, while you're at it.  You'll thank me later.



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POB
Old Bugger, Curmudgeon, and Antisocial B**tard


Posted By: Playwright
Date Posted: 9/14/06 at 12:54pm

My CT did this play a long time ago.  We actually took it to a theatre festival competition. We actually packed the entire set and travelled four hours to the competition.

 For the disappearing actor, we had a platform with a trap door that opened down.  We had a very ingeneous mechanical engineer as part of our crew and he build a hoist of some kind (hidden under the platform) that lowerd the actor. It was something like those hoist things that your car goes up on when at the garage for repairs but I think it operated on compressed air.  Add dry ice & LX specials and it looks awesome.  I could put you in touch with the fellow who built the hoist.  Send me your email contact in a PM and I can forward it to him.  Can't promise anything.     One thing we did was have as one of the KKK members (some of whom come on stage wearing their hoods) was a black actor.  He loved playing the part and we had great fun watching the audience reaction at curtain call time when the KKK guys removed their hoods. 



Posted By: pdavis69
Date Posted: 10/13/06 at 12:54am
I have done the Foreigner twice.  I played Charlie both times and designed both sets.  In one set I was fortunate enough to have an actual trap door for the cellar entrance.  Both cellar entrances were basically boxes about 2 foot by 2 foot with a hinged lid on top.  The problem lies in making a quick exit down.  This ended up being impossible.  I solved this by creating a spring loaded panel in the wall above the cellar entrance.  Charlie would set off a piece of flash paper in the blackout and simply push out the false wall.  Once out back stage I just crawled under the back of the set and appeared to come up from the cellar.

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Patrick L. Davis
Fort Findlay Playhouse



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