Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Set Design and Construction
 Community Theater Green Room Discussion Board :Producing Theater :Set Design and Construction
Message Icon Topic: thoroughly modern millie elevator(Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post Reply Post New Topic
Author Message
prockter
Walk-On
Walk-On


Joined: 1/19/08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
bullet Topic: thoroughly modern millie elevator
    Posted: 1/19/08 at 5:57pm
our high school is putting on thoroughly modern millie. most of the set design has been figured out, except for the elevator. we have a nice stage, capable of flying things out, but changing the weights or having an unbalanced fly bar is the problem with flying the elevator platform out. how would you recommend we do the elevator?


IP IP Logged
Topper
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 1/27/05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 543
bullet Posted: 1/19/08 at 11:28pm
If you do not need an actual, working elevator, you can create the illusion of one simply by using flat, sliding doors with small windows in them. These windows would be covered with translucent plastic or paper (allowing light to shine through, but still be opaque enough to hide whatever was behind them.

The illusion works as follows: On cue, two stagehands hidden from audience view pull open the doors. The doors slide open and your "passengers" enter the elevator car.   As the doors close, a light shines from within the elevator, lighting up the windows. Another stagehand (or the actor dressed as the elevator operator) simply (and slowly) raises a horizontal card that blocks the light for BOTH windows and gives the illusion of the elevator car "rising." This gives your passengers the opportunity to sneak out the back, hidden from audience view.

Then, when the elevator "returns," the operator merely lowers the card in the same fashion, revealing the lit windows once again. Doors open and -- voilia! -- either the elevator is now empty or it has been populated with a different set of passengers (who likewise have sneaked in the back way).
"None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone
IP IP Logged
JoeMc
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 3/13/06
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 832
bullet Posted: 1/20/08 at 2:17am
Originally posted by prockter

but changing the weights or having an unbalanced fly bar is the problem with flying the elevator
If you use an adjacent fly cradle loaded to counter the additional weight of the performers, which is picked up by brail arms atached to the 'platform' argon cradle & move under the other extra weighted cradle. So the two fly line cradles operate in tandum,  when the extra weight is required, is farly easy to achieve.
{ the extra cradle can fly out of the way & the haul lines, snotted off with the line brake applied, when not required}
However it needs to be done by a competant Fly Mechanist/Rigger, as there is planned procedual & operational logistics to be considered.
HoweverToppers sugestion would be much safer without a qualified techie.
[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}
IP IP Logged
lovelylady
Walk-On
Walk-On
Avatar

Joined: 1/22/08
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
bullet Posted: 1/24/08 at 2:06pm
We used projections which made it look like the elevator was moving. The elevator was a free-standing piece and when Miss Dorothy and Millie got in to "tap" we lowered the lights on the surrounding set and the projection gave the illusion of movement. We were flying all of our other set pieces and didn't have the space needed for the elevator, plus it would have been too unstable. The high schools in our area did the show after we did and they flew the elevator. Unfortunately, it got stuck with Millie and Dorothy in it about 6 feet up. It is a great effect when it does fly, but it is not necessary, especially when the show grinds to a halt with two leads suspended in the air in a box.
"it's a crowd favorite-Everybody loves a good jazz square" - Ryan Evans
IP IP Logged
leonarp
Walk-On
Walk-On


Joined: 2/05/08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
bullet Posted: 2/05/08 at 2:30pm
We built a large continuous "scroll" that 2 stagehands roll as the elevator "rises".  The scroll is painted to depict the interior of an old-style elevator shaft.  We also lower the surounding lights to enhance the effect.
IP IP Logged
JoeMc
Celebrity
Celebrity
Avatar

Joined: 3/13/06
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 832
bullet Posted: 2/06/08 at 6:58am
Welcome Leonarp! I havent seen a rolling scenic cloth drop used for years in this way great idea.
Very effective if an open exspanding grill are used as the Lift doors.
i have done the moving scene cloths across stage, using a crown & staight rollers off stage.
I assume it could be considered an Olio!
[western] Gondawandaland
"Hear the light & see the sound!
TOI TOI CHOOKAS
{may you always play to a full house!}
IP IP Logged
oeow
Walk-On
Walk-On


Joined: 8/30/08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 0
bullet Posted: 8/30/08 at 2:07am
Are there any further ideas for building a working elevator for Millie?.. I'm thinking about making some type of scissor lift - but I'm not sure.
IP IP Logged
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums version 8.05
Copyright ©2001-2006 Web Wiz Guide
buy generic cialis are in line cialis canada outcome for yourself viagra sales cost saving benefit viagra uk convert your buy phentermine online pay phentermine cod payment Lenders Everything xanax online your existing xanax overnight absolute must free incest stories online The value gay incest advance The key free dog sex pics cash flow dog sex the reduced noise free gay college guys of the period gay guys