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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 3:32am
Thanks for the feedback,

The play/musical is footloose by the way

the director suggested I hold my position (arm raised) till she runs off, as she is running of i rub my forehead with the hand i was going to hit her with, then lean on a table (nearby), head down.

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ok, now try it again, but this time...don't suck
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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 6:03am
 Sound all right - except I would hold the hand raised, while  she runs off. Turning my gaze from her exit to fix on the offending raised hand towards the audience. Then lower it slowly with the use of the other hand clutching it, following it with your head & gaze on to your chest. Then lifting your head slowly to deliver the line to the punters. All the time using the length of the pause to reflect your action & allow the situation to dictate the time you take.
Rehearse in front of a mirror at home, when your believe it is taking too long, you will find it won?t be long enough. Therefore hold the study of the offending hand for more heart beats, until you feel it in side!
From the initial hold of the hands action, be subtle & do as little movement as possible, in order to pull in the punters focus.
Well that?s how I would play it, for what it is worth?

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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 8:53am
Originally posted by castMe

I have witnessed scenes that have
reduced me to a sobbing idiot by merely watching actor A watch
the actor B exit.? He needn't cry nor wail, nor wring his hands,
nor curse the gods. I was moved because I KNEW how the actor felt, and
yet I have no idea whether he was as moved as I or was pondering what
to eat after the show.?? ?


ah - gotcha. I think we agree. LOL Just a difference in phraseology.
Though, I might add, if the actor was TRULY pondering what to eat after the
show, I bet you wouldn't have been so moved! LOL
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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 9:58am

Originally posted by Broceli

...the director suggested I hold my position (arm raised) till she runs off, as she is running of i rub my forehead with the hand i was going to hit her with, then lean on a table (nearby), head down.

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Why are you asking our opinion of this?  None of us are in a position to second guess your director.   If you have a real concern about what the director has asked you to do or if you have another idea I'd strongly suggest going to the source about it.

As a director it would upset me if I had actors that wouldn't come to me if they had an issue with what I've asked them to do or if they discussed it only with other actors who are also not in a position to give that kind of advice.   By discussing it with your director maybe the two of you will come up with something even better.

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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 10:17am

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I think James is feeling a little insecure in what he's been asked to do. However, I agree he really needs to talk with his director and explain that he's still uncomfortable. Of course, what he's feeling on stage may not be what it looks like out in the house. I've never been a proponent of using videotape during the rehearsal or performance period as a tool to develop character or movement. That's what the director is for. When I direct, I forbid any use of video.

James,

If what you are feeling is based on what you are seeing on the tape (I'm going back to your first post), perhaps it's time to put the tape away and trust your director... after all, that's why we have directors. After all the discussions we've had on this board about "backseat directors", we tend to defer to the director in this type of instance.

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Videotape as a rehearsal tool - discuss.

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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 12:58pm

I've never used video as a rehearsal tool or had a director that used it for that.   When watching performances that I've directed or performed in on video they don't look or sound the same as when I've witnessed them live. 

Maybe it's the quality of the video itself, I've never seen a ct performance that's the same quality of a professional video of a B'way show that you'll sometimes see on PBS. 

Bottom line is that I would never use video as a rehearsal tool and would only use it for archival purposes (personal or otherwise) of performances. 

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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by Mike Polo

I think James is feeling a little insecure in what he's been asked to do. However, I agree he really needs to talk with his director and explain that he's still uncomfortable. Of course, what he's feeling on stage may not be what it looks like out in the house.

Just what I was going to say. This relates to the other discussion about "doing nothing."  How you feel as an actor does not neccesarily have anything to do with what the audience perceives.  What you think you are seeing on a videotape does not neccesarily represent what an audience is going to perceive.  That's why you need a director.


Videotape as a rehearsal tool - discuss.


It seems like a terrible idea, though I've never seen it used so I guess I should reserve judgement. A videotape of a theatrical performance does not represent the reality of the performance. Also, the mind tends to judge it according the aesthetics of film and television productions that were designed for the screen, where a play is not. In other words, it's going to look "bad" and even worse during rehearsal. You would run the risk of destroying your actors' confidence in themselves and you (especially young actors.) At the very least, if you start showing actors videotapes of themselves rehearsing it seems to me it's going to radically interfere with the process. They would start judging themselves, second guessing the director and making subjective decisions based on what is at best a distorted view. On the other hand, maybe it would be of some use in a musical to check choreography.


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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 1:20pm
By the way, relating to the discussion about deleting profanity, isn't videotaping a performance usually also strictly prohibited for any purpose? I don't know if that applies to rehearsals.
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Oh man.  This is such and interesting thread!  Love it!  as far as using video for rehearsals I've never done it except in one show we videod the choreography - the choreographer doing it - so people could practice and memorize it at home.  Worked ok. 
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bullet Posted: 8/01/06 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by tristanrobin

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Though, I might add, if the actor was TRULY pondering what to eat after the
show, I bet you wouldn't have been so moved! LOL


But, Tristan, that's my point. It really, ultimately doesn't matter what the actor is thinking or feeling.....All that matters is what he's doing and how we respond to what he's doing.

Ever come off stage thinking "Boy, was I ever on tonight.  I sure nailed that scene tonight."  Only to have your director say, "Gee, castMe, you seemed a little flat tonight." ??

How about the performance you think stank up the place and again you're surprised when Mr. Director exclaims, "CastMe, you were outstanding tonight.  So much better than last night." ??

It doesn't matter how you feel....it doesn't matter what you're thinking or whether you're in a good mood or hungry or horny or if your feet smell. All the audience every knows is what you do. 
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