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falstaff29
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Posted: 11/03/06 at 5:04pm |
Here's an excerpt from DPS' website:
http://www.dramatists.com/faqsmanager/applications/faqsman ager/index.asp?ItemID=15 It basically says that there is some flexibility allowed with staging a play which isn't allowed with alterations to lines of dialogue or other material components of the play (e.g., character gender, setting, etc.). As the link admits, what the boundaries of acceptable staging are is not an exact science, which is why all the confusion. As far as what the courts uphold, that's even more complex. There's a very interesting case in NY right now involving this issue. Plaintiff is Einhorn, who directed and was fired from an OOB play, and is claiming copyright infringement because his replacement retained many of his decisions regarding the staging. A good discussion here: http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/01/copyright-in-stag e-directions.html |
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red diva
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Posted: 11/03/06 at 5:21pm |
I already wrote this posting once, but the computer I was using froze up on me and I lost it. I'll try again. Interesting posting on copywrite infringement, jayzehr. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the first website you listed seemed to me to deal with using a director's staging rather than omitting it. It stated that the producer and director of a 1994 Chicago production of "The Most Happy Fella" used Gerald Gutierrez's staging from his 1992 Broadway revival without permission, and that is what got them into trouble. Also, it mentioned that the Chicago-Kent Law Review concluded that "stage directions can't be copywrited". I am no lawyer, so someone please correct me if I am reading it wrong. Your second citation was likewise interesting. The article in the 1999 Dramatics magazine seemed to describe "business" more than "blocking". To me, "business" always seems to be more closely tied to the author's dialogue and meaning. The article listed "laughing", "tearfully", throwing Stella the bloody meat.......all business having nothing to do with moving the actors around the stage, which to me is one of the meanings of "blocking". It would be very difficult to change or omit "business" without changing the playwright's intention. Sometimes it is necessary to change blocking, which I still maintain is the notation of the original director's blocking made in the prompt book by the stage manager (which I, by the way, learned from a theatre professor, like the professor quoted in the article). Your stage, set, and facility are different than the original and likely would not accomodate the staging in the script book. Thanks for including the information about liability of the board members. I wonder if Ohio's laws are the same. Anyone out there have the answer to that? |
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red diva
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Posted: 11/03/06 at 5:48pm |
Hey, jayzehr: Back on page 8 of this topic, I mentioned several theatres going bust because of copyright infringement. You asked for particulars, and I mentioned that I would contact the Ex.Dir. of our state theatre org. and let you know what those were. She got back to me today. I will quote her, except for the names of the theatres involved. "Here in Columbus, the ____________(theatre) was rehearsing Noel Coward's "Private Lives", however instead of 2 men and 2 women according to the script, they decided to cast 4 guys (2 gay couples). They made the mistake of putting something on their website and on Thursday before they were scheduled to open on Friday, a rep from Samuel French flew into Columbus and pulled the rights. The show was scheduled for a 3 weekend run. They not only lost the royalty that they had paid up front, but with no audience, they really lost money and as a result had to declare bankruptcy. Several years ago ('70's or earlier), _________(theatre) was going to do a musical revue of various songs from various musicals, but they did not get the rights. I heard they were supposed to be fined $10,000........... I am not positive on the outcome." As I said before, Big Brother is indeed watching! |
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jayzehr
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Posted: 11/03/06 at 6:12pm |
A number of years ago I wanted to do Waiting For Godot with a female cast for a one night free performance for a non-profit. I contacted Dramatists and they said absolutely not, the Beckett estate was very adament on that.
Then a few years ago I saw a performance at the local university with a female Pozzo. I've asked a number of people how they got permisssion for that and gotten very vague answers. |
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Gaafa
Celebrity Joined: 3/21/04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1181 |
Posted: 11/04/06 at 2:35am |
Obviously they didn?t get it & just took the risk of getting in it, up to their collective eyeballs!
It is interesting about individual copyright created from a production/performance, which will open a much bigger can of worms. |
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Joe
Western Gondawandaland turn right @ Perth. Hear the light & see the sound. Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"} May you always play to a full house} |
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Kathy S
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Posted: 11/05/06 at 12:02am |
I saw a production of Albee's Zoo Story with a woman playing Jerry. It was at a state community theatre festival. Also added a third character to the play: that of the dog in Jerry's long convoluted story that "he" (she in this case) tells. I'm pretty sure no one got permission for that. |
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B-M-D
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Posted: 11/05/06 at 9:11am |
You usually don't see too many Albee plays at festivals because he doesn't allow cuttings of his material. Zoo Story being a one act it may have been possible to do it without cutting. However, I'm almost certain that permission would not have been given to change genders or add a third (!) character (and a female version is not available at DPS). Most festivals (well at least the ones around here) require written proof of permision with your application/ entry paperwork. Shame on the ct that did that and the festival that allowed it.
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Kathy S
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Posted: 11/06/06 at 1:14am |
Indeed.
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red diva
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Posted: 11/06/06 at 10:34am |
Yes, and I'm surprised no-one at the Festival noticed it and reported it to someone in charge. At our regional and state festivals in Ohio, too, you need written proof from the leasing agency/playwright/whoever controls the rights, plus a waiver form signed by someone on your Board of Trustees. This is to place any liability on the presenting theatre and not on the state organization. And believe me, you'd better have proof that you have permission to make any changes....there is a great possibility that there will be an agent from one of the above listed entities in attendance and, if not, someone in the audience or the adjudicators will notice the changes or omissions and take it up with the Festival chair. If the complaint is deemed valid, your excerpt will be disqualified from receiving any awards at the State and Regional level, and from being invited to go on to State if at the Regional level. I've seen it happen!
Question, jayzehr.....what length are excerpts permitted to be at your state festival? |
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Kathy S
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Posted: 11/07/06 at 3:01am |
Wow. We are really off topic, but I'm going to continue... The instance that I am speaking of was really odd, because if I recall correctly, I saw this production at the state level and then again at the regional level. I know it was an AACT representative who remarked to me that she was very concerned about it. She must have said something because it didn't get past regionals. However, nothing was said publically about it being disqualified. The ironic thing is that there were adjudicators who praised the choices quite extensively. The next festival this group (same director, many of the same actors) went to nationals. |
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