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    Posted: 4/16/11 at 4:39pm
Came very close to having to step into my cast for the final day of our run during this last show.  One actor was out sick, and another didn't show up at school until later.  The first we were able to cover with two actors already in the show, but the second would have had to been me.

Just got me thinking about the idea of adults in a high school production.  I've got three situations in my head, and I don't know how I feel about each of these:

1) A choir director in a neighboring high school decided he wanted to play a main role in his show.  From the auditions forward, he was the lead.  I don't know any other details, but I can't imagine any situation where this would be warranted.

2) Another neighboring high school was doing Bye Bye Birdie several years ago.  Two weeks before the show, the student playing Conrad was caught getting "friendly" with his girlfriend in the green room during rehearsal.  He was kicked out of the show and suspended from school, so the drama director stepped in and played Conrad.  Slightly awkward, but understandable.

3) When I was in high school and in Joseph, the woods teacher was cast as Potiphar.  Although I didn't question it at the time, I do wonder why a student wasn't cast in the role.

What are your thoughts about adults (especially the director) being used in a high school production?
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Quote KEB54 Replybullet Posted: 4/16/11 at 6:07pm
I think it's OK in certain situations. All major roles should go to the kids, but sometimes it is fun for the kids to have a teacher have a part, especially a silly part, maybe one that kids aren't keen on.
 
Recently our local school principal played Ed Sullivan in "Bye Bye Birdie". None of the kids knew who Ed Sullivan was but they sure enjoyed seeing the principal on stage acting so goofy.  :)
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Quote PaulyWally Replybullet Posted: 4/16/11 at 8:40pm
I think having adults in a show with teenagers and/or children is a good idea all around.  Their responsibility should not necessarily be to detract from the kids' performance, but anchor their performance and demonstrate the responsibility and discipline it takes to create a successful performance.  I also don't think that an adult should have a larger role than any of the kids unless absolutely necessary.

Many children's theatre groups have created successful models with this in mind.  It might be a good idea to research them if you're interested to see how different companies handle it.
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Quote peacock Replybullet Posted: 4/17/11 at 11:00am
As a high school drama director I think this one is easy. A teacher should never be purposely cast in a play. Although they will never tell you, the kids will be totally creeped out. No matter how small the role, no matter how funny you think it is. I have seen it done, and it never works. If the teacher is really good, it makes the kids look bad. If the teacher is not good, why not cast a kid. If you do high school drama it just needs to be about them, not you.

BTW, that is what bothers me about GLEE. There seems to be an endless supply of adults who would rather live out their own dreams than help kids live out their's. Personally, there is nothing better in life than watching a curtain call from the back side, seeing those kids soak up all the love.

Now, what if someone breaks both legs the night before the show? Then, you do whatever you need to do.

That is my two cents' worth.
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Quote edh915 Replybullet Posted: 4/17/11 at 11:38am
I'm with peacock on this one.  High school theatre is about high school performers.  It's their space, and it's their place to shine.  Any adult casting, however well intentioned, is going to detract from the students - and that shouldn't happen.
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Quote sguti39 Replybullet Posted: 4/17/11 at 3:14pm

I can understand the following situations:

1.)  Emergency and no suitable back-up (but next time have a contingency plan)
2.)  Limited use of a guest performer.  For example, we did Pied Piper the musical version and used a older gentleman as the piper (this was a youth production and not a high school  production).  In this version, there were multiple lead roles which highlighted the youth.  The piper was a supporting role.
3.)  Limited use as a cameo performance, such as described by KEB.
 
That being said, I stress the word limited and completely agree that directors casting themselves or their peers appears a little vicarious.
 
If the adults are interested in performing, why not have a special showcase that highlights their talents.
 
Just my two cents.
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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Posted: 4/17/11 at 6:26pm
I think I'm more in squti's camp on this.  As I was thinking back (don't know how I forgot about this), when we did Big River in high school, the director used an English teacher as Huck's dad- I suspect a lot of it was so a student didn't have to sing "sorry sons of b****es"- but he was really funny in the role, and it was a huge departure from his normal decorum in class.  It was kind of neat to see him in a different light.

We're doing Seussical next year for our musical, and during the opening of Act II, the Cat is conducting the pit orchestra.  My pragmatic brain always wondered, "Where's the conductor during this?"  Well, since I generally conduct the band and play an instrument in the pit, I figured I'd just be playing, but then I saw a neat version of the gag on YouTube- the orchestra gets to the final strain of the entre act, and the conductor comes bursting through the curtain, bound and with a hood over his head!  The Cat then rushes up onto the stage, hamming it up, and releases the furious conductor.  The conductor (also hamming it up), stomps angrily back to his position and gives the final downbeat before the cat yells, "Seuss!"  Was considering doing that in our show- it would be funny, and it certainly wouldn't be taking away a role from a student, which I really like.
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Quote MartyW Replybullet Posted: 4/18/11 at 7:42am

Like everything in life, this is a situation based decision. I direct for my high school. I ALWAYS use adults, both teachers and community members. The reason for this? Our school has a little over 200 kids K-12. Of the 70 or so H.S. students, all are in multiple activities already and only a few have the drama bug. So they shouldn't be denied, we suplement to fill out a cast, using as many of the kids in leads as possible. Like community thaeter, all school drama clubs are not created equal...

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Quote sguti39 Replybullet Posted: 4/18/11 at 10:17am
Marty I completely understand your scenario...but what if you had 1000+ (just a random number) students to chose from?  Would you still cast teachers and community members?
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Quote Rorgg Replybullet Posted: 4/18/11 at 11:59am
I did one show in HS, just as a lark (3rd cockney gent from the left in My Fair Lady)  I didn't plan to do any more theatre, but when I got to college, I did continue singing in the choral program.  My third year, I got a call from the HS drama teacher -- they were doing Cabaret, had lost their 2nd Schultz, this one to illness, 10 days before open.  I was still local and could carry a tune -- would I come back and lend a hand?

It was a whirlwind but fun experience -- even though I didn't do another show for 15 years....
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