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Andrea T
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    Posted: 5/06/05 at 9:01pm
I run a children's theater company and I was curious about how much other community theater groups pay their staff.  Right now we pay    1,000 for the director, 500 for the choreographer, 500 for the musical director, 300 for the set designer/constructor, 100 each for those who work in the box office, and 200 for the sound/light designer. To me some of these seems a bit low for a full scale musical that rehearses for 10 weeks. If you guys could let me know what is the norm, i would appreciate it! thanks
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bullet Posted: 5/06/05 at 11:51pm

I think it really depends on the size of the community and the size of the theatre company.  I've seen theatres where it's basically all volunteer and others that pay out the big bucks. 

We're in a very small community and got off to a bad start paying in excess of $1000 for our very first director.  We did Music Man.  That won't happen again. 

In a larger city it might take that and more to get a director ... I don't know.  I'm just thinking that everything is going to be relative when it comes to costs.

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bullet Posted: 5/07/05 at 11:14am
We do not pay anyone associated with our productions.  That being said, we do not do musicals.  I know that it is hard to get musicians to do a show without getting paid something for their efforts.  We also pay instructors for our training classes.  If I am working with mostly new actors, I often hire a professional instructor to work with the cast for a week and the instructor is paid.

I don't think it is fair to pay the Director if no one else is getting paid.  A nearby theater pays $1,000 (or more) to directors.  They also pay the musical director and sometimes the choreographer and the costume person.  Once you start to pay one person then it is hard to stop.  Is the lighting designer more valuable than the choreographer or the box office person or the producer?  I know one theater that has paid 40% of the gross income ($4,000 out of $11,000) out to pay the people involved with the production.  Hard to make money when you do that.  They also get into a bidding war:  If person X gets $1,000 then person Y is worth $1,500 or even $2,000 - and they get it!!!!

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bullet Posted: 5/07/05 at 1:38pm
IMO

I don't think paying directors, who are working with volunteer
actors, is any different than paying a coach for a volunteer ball
team - or any other circumstance or organization that requires
an experienced, educated person to 'lead' the team.

If your theatre is able to attract competent, skilled directors with
vision and experience - congratulations! And more power to
you. But most directors I know are unwilling to work for no
money. Of course - that might be regional (I'm in the northeast) -
perhaps in other areas of the country, things are different?
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bullet Posted: 5/08/05 at 9:57am

I am in the Northeast too. The stipends you mentined are in line with what we pay. We are very rural and the stipend covers basic expenses. We found that quality directors, choreographers etc. can't work for us unless they can at least break even. Musicians in this area always paid.

 

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bullet Posted: 5/09/05 at 4:22am

There were groups who paid varying amounts to Directors, Choreographers & Musical Directors per production, however these are in the minority these days, mainly because of stricter rules under the State Association Incorporation Act. Not that this would mean anything to you or your group.

Also with Insurance compensation coverage & taxation. There are a lot of problems that can & do occur, with them having to be a member for insurance & other prescribed taxes, rules, policy & conditions.

If there are fees paid, these are as a predetermined allowance/perdiums, depending upon out of pocket expenses.

I?m glad to say, while their are still those who exploit the amateurs, disguised as a not for profit most groups. There are still opportunities to be paid, for specific tutorial lectures & workshops, however they never seem to be for particular show.

We don?t have a shortage of Directors willing to do productions.

To give you an idea about West Australia, the State is 1/3 the area of Australia, there are about 300 registered community theatre groups in the state, of which 2 million people reside in the largest State in the World. There are only about 90 of these groups who are members of the state theatre Association.

I doubt if a any actually pay anyone for directing or what ever, in a production, other than an extraordinary expense.

 

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bullet Posted: 5/09/05 at 3:37pm
The theatre in my town only pays $500 for Director and $250 for SM and TD. That's it. Of course they use the community college's black box (drama/comedy) and traditional theatre (musicals) so they have an added cost of tacking $4 per ticket price in lieu of paying for a space.
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bullet Posted: 5/25/05 at 5:56pm
We're a very small theater (capacity is 614) and we don't pay much. The Director gets between 300-350 dollars normally, and then we give the set designer around 100 dollars and the light and sound people fifty dollars. In other words, we don't spend more than five hundred for paid staff at a production. I am directing "Steel Magnolias" and I am going to be paid three hundred dollars for my time.
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bullet Posted: 7/25/05 at 8:43pm
You don't know what small is. Our capacity is 61.
We don't pay anything.
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bullet Posted: 7/26/05 at 10:27am
Small is 60 seats.  Anyone smaller?
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