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75director
Celebrity Joined: 8/19/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 122 |
Posted: 1/23/07 at 11:01am |
We don't offer cast/crew comp tickets, however, we do offer them 10 tickets at a discounted price. There's a form they have to use and turn into the box office and they also need to pay for the tickets when they turn in the form -- in the past people would reserve cast/crew tickets and then not show up, not good if the house is sold out that night.
As far as other comps, next season we will be offering our program advertisers one comp per production. Our cooperate sponsors get 10 free tickets for the production they're sponsoring. On rare occasions we will comp someone if they donated a really hard to find prop or set piece.
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Techiemama
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Posted: 1/23/07 at 11:44am |
This is a great idea! I will definately be sharing this one. Thanks!
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Techiemama
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Posted: 1/23/07 at 11:51am |
I am personally buying more than 10 tickets and we have lots of friends and family paying for theirs, as well. I really wanted the comps more as an 'In Kind' for the work and donations of a few very special people who came through for me with props. I did have an email 'bout' with the director and she finally approved my request.
Thanks for all of the input! I will be sharing some ideas for policy changes. Our current policy of 'if the director feels like it , you get free tickets' has got to go!
-TechieMama
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Kibitzer
Lead Joined: 2/06/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 39 |
Posted: 2/06/07 at 3:14pm |
I have found that in general, most theatres get way too hyped up about comp tickets. When the curtain goes up, what's that empty seat now worth? Same as an airline ticket as soon as the plane takes off. Nothing.
It may be even a little more extreme with theatres than with planes. If I can get someone into my theatre to see a show, I might be able to get that person to come back for another and another and the next thing you know, they become a subscriber! Think of comps as an extension of your marketing program: it's an investment in a future paying customer. If you charge, say $15 for a ticket, that means you can spend up to $15 to get someone in that seat to break even. Giving a ticket away doesn't cost you much, if anything, to get a fanny in that seat. The question of giving cast/crew comps is a little different. You see, they're part of your "sales force". I'll be talking a lot more about marketing in an upcoming "Kibitzer" article, but suffice it to say for now that when your sales force starts giving away your product, there's something that just doesn't feel right about it. It's actually counter-intuitive. I think there are ways to have your cake and eat it too on this one. Your cast/crew deserve some sort of freebie now and again, but what shape and form that freebie takes can be really important. Let me give you just one idea on this: Every participant in a show get's ONE comp for EVERY OTHER show in your season. "YIKES!", I'll bet you're thinking. Actually, I've seen this one in action. First, it builds a sense of community among all your participants of all your shows because everyone shows up for everyone else's shows -- there's mutual support. Secondly, you're only giving away ONE ticket per show. Certainly, many people will go with each other, but how many will go by themselves? Chances are many will end up buying another ticket for someone who will accompany them to the shows. In addition to all this, unless you don't have a problem selling out your shows, what kind of audience would you like to have out there? A half-empty house, or one half-filled with supportive and knowledgable audience members? Which one will give you the best "buzz"? Okay, I'll shut up now. Your always, The Kibitzer |
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Gaafa
Celebrity Joined: 3/21/04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1181 |
Posted: 2/06/07 at 7:12pm |
I whole heartedly agree Kibizer.
Primarily I believe in the P J Barnum practice, of giving out one comp to every one he meets. Especially in a new town that his circus rolled into for the first time, thus investing in future audiences. History proves the success of that ploy. When I started up our theatre group a few years ago. I gave out a comp to every theatre group in the state & two to all those groups who were members of our Theatre Association. For our inaugural production of ‘Stepping Out’. Along with at least 2 to every member of the crew & cast, the sponsors & anyone that donated things to the show. I made up a few donation boxes & placed strategically around the foyer which worked well! In fact one of the smallest house we got, while their was no ticket sales as such, at the end of the performance was one of the better grossing nights we had. Even though I was continually berated & admonished by our committee, I never become a member of the group or committee. Preferring to lurk in back ground, unfortunately they give me a life membership. Which in my experience, is like getting the gold hand shake & a nice way of being informed to evaporate. Which I did for a while, until I got the inevitable urgent phone call - While I released it was not for my body, so it must have been for something else? But whatever, it is always nice to feel wanted! Anyhow they had reverted in my absence to a no comp policy & it didn’t seem to work that well, even with the returns of the donation boxes. So I pushed for them to not charge a ticket price & only have admission by donation, which turned things around. The only thing which became a stmberling block, was the City who owned the venue, placed a key card swiping locks on the door to the hall & sent exorbitant hire fees for every time we went in, even just to pick something that had been forgotten, With a bit of lobbying we eventually got a peppercorn lease on premises at another City Council building, to use for storage & rehearsals. The problem now is the group has not done any shows since then & may have lost the gains from the no charge admission. However now they have a home it will be easier to regain any losses in the future - but that’s all another story! |
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Kibitzer
Lead Joined: 2/06/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 39 |
Posted: 2/06/07 at 8:57pm |
Well, there's another "counter-intuitive" point! Forget about ticket prices altogether, comp the whole world, ask for donations, and make more money than when you charged for tickets!
Art is all about taking risks. So is the art of management. |
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dougb
Celebrity Joined: 3/30/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 148 |
Posted: 2/07/07 at 12:27pm |
We charge between $5 and $10 for a ticket depending on the expenses of the production. We also have a pay-what-you-can night. The revenue from the PWYC night runs between $8 and $12 per ticket. (many drop a $20 into the jar) Go figure.
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VPA1
Star Joined: 10/20/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 54 |
Posted: 2/14/07 at 12:43pm |
A couple of indisputable facts we have discovered at our 173 seat CT after 32 years:
The only reason anyone should participate in a production is for applause and for your own self-fulfillment. If you feel you need to be thanked for your hours of effort and toil, you're in the wrong theater. The more comps we give out, the less revenue we realise. Our theater does not run on good will, it runs on money. We survive only on the basis of good ticket sales. This is no art without an audience. |
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Techiemama
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Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:28pm |
I appreciate your comments, and I did take a solid look at it. You are right. It is thankless. It doesn't have to be, but it is.
I disagree however that if you give comps you lose revenue. Word of mouth has effect on ticketsales. An empty seat is an absence of audience, and a wise person once said, There is no art without an audience.
The show ended. I purchased around 20 full price tickets when it was all said and done, and I was eventually offered two comps to give to the people who donated a $300 set piece, so all is well and good now that it is over. I will be encouraging the director to come up with a policy for future shows, and I will run by her the suggestions that I heard from this forum. If the policy was 'no comps' I would not necessarily have a problem with it, but the lack of any policy meant directors friends get comps, all others pay cash. It caused some harsh words, needless to say.
Thanks for all the input,
TM
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dougb
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Posted: 2/18/07 at 11:05am |
We don't do comps. We do have a one ticket rule for families of those directly involved on stage or with running the show. If they buy one ticket, family members can see the show as often as they want. If we are sold out we ask them to take a less desirable seat.
Several years ago, I was directing a show at a large nearby theater that gave two comps to every advertiser in the program (almost 400 free tickets compared with 1,000 sold tickets!!!!). That represented a loss of almost $5,000 in revenue - these were people who always came to the theater. Then they had the nerve to complain that they didn't make their revenue target. |
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