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bullet Posted: 9/15/06 at 6:28pm

POB,

Well thank you for your response and apology.  I too, must apologize for my rant.  Sorry about that.  Long winded too - part of who I am.  I understand that things I might have said may have appeared to be reactionary.  If you want, go read the other post on the ACTING link and you may understand a bit more who I was dealing with (a tempermental, arrogant actor who was a problem case from the outset albeit after auditions).  Who knew??  So let's just not get off on the wrong foot and I'll contain myself as much as possible.  I'm a hot-headed Italian and it's a fault being so outspoken, to the point, and abrupt.  But I am too old to waste too much time (don't have that much left  so I have no time for attitudes from actors who I work with or anyone else).  Believe me when I say, I DO NOT have attitude.  I have FOUGHT THAT TOOTH AND NAIL like a pitbull, for the last nearly 50 freaking years from those who exhibited that.  I may come off that way to some.  But I assure you I am not. 

Anyway, I will accept your apology and trust you will accept mine.  Now we can move ahead and I HOPE that I can contribute something to the group.  I AM NOT the last word believe me.  But as I said (no brag, just fact) I HAVE been doing this almost 50 years in one form or the other.  NOT that THAT counts for anything.  I am aware it does not.  But if I CAN be of assistance I trust people will accept it in the spirit of good will, good sense, relatively good experience, time and age/wisdom (if it's even really wise at all).

THANKS FOR YOUR REMARKS.

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bullet Posted: 9/18/06 at 9:53am

Apology accepted, although it certainly wasn't necessary.  (What happens to an apology that isn't accepted, anyway?  Does it go to a community college for a couple of years and try again? )  I did read the other post, and frankly, if I had been dealing with the actor you had,  I would have inserted a large garden gnome in him. 

Sorry we got off on the wrong foot, and I'm sure we can both contribute to many a lively discussion here in the future.

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bullet Posted: 9/18/06 at 10:18am

Y'all keep this and we'll have to extend Happy Hour... which, come to think of it, isn't a bad idea.

But I'll tell you guys one thing; I'm learning a heckuva a lot!

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bullet Posted: 9/18/06 at 3:27pm
Originally posted by POB14

...frankly, if I had been dealing with the actor you had,  I would have inserted a large garden gnome in him. 

 

Wow.  Thanks for the visual. 

And thanks for an expression that I'm sure to steal and use often.

"None of us really grow up. All we ever do is learn how to behave in public." -- Keith Johnstone
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bullet Posted: 9/18/06 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by Topper

Originally posted by POB14

...frankly, if I had been dealing with the actor you had,  I would have inserted a large garden gnome in him. 

Wow.  Thanks for the visual. 

And thanks for an expression that I'm sure to steal and use often.

Be my guest.  I stole it from John Cleese in Fawlty Towers

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bullet Posted: 9/19/06 at 3:42am
Blimey POB I thought that sounded rather  Pythonish. Although it might of bean written by  Connie Booth [aka Constance Booth]  who plays Poly & was also a  co-writer with JC!
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bullet Posted: 9/19/06 at 10:32am

Late to the party, but what's new... Put my vote down for the don't call side.... I have been on both sides of the fence, and don't know how on earth I would handle the rejection call, let alone coming up with the enrgy and stamina to handle calling a huge rejection list as director. It is hard enough when an actor wants to quible about the role they were offered or the one they thought they should get.  Multiply that by a large cast shows reject list, yikes...  As others have said, I respect those of you who will take this high road approach, but as for me, I have always gone with (and perfer to have those I try out for do the same) "We will call you by xxxx if cast. Otherwise, thanks for trying out" approach.  I personally, add a something that use to be standard in our theater, but has gone into disuse.  I like to send a little note card.  In it I thank them again for coming out and encourage them to try out again.

Not right, not wrong... Just one more opinion.....

 

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bullet Posted: 9/19/06 at 4:55pm

Sorry if I'm repeating.  I didn't have enough time to read all of the replies.

I just finished casting a play, and I pretty much knew who I was going to use before all the actors left.  But after last year when I had to make some tough decisions that would cause both actresses to hate me either way, I do not verbally communicate a cast list.

I teach at a school, so I post the cast list.

At a CT, you could post it on your website or create an outgoing phone message on a voice mail or answering machine with the list.

This prevents the hard feelings and the actors who will try to get you to rethink your decisions.

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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 1:38pm

What a great idea.....putting the cast list on your or the theatre's answering machine!  I blush that I had never thought of that.

Also great is putting it on your website, but a lot of our webmasters just aren't able to post it as promptly as would be desirable.

My pet peeve is posting the cast list on the theatre door (and, I hasten to point out, I do not include school, university, etc. theatres in this as their auditioners have easy access to the list).  In our area, many of us work at several theatres, and several drive great distances to get to them (I recently worked with a woman that drove 1 1/2 hours ONE WAY to get to rehearsals).  It is outrageous to expect someone to drive all that way just to see if they are cast when a short and simple phone call would be considerate and benefit the theatre's outreach and PR.  Another friend was just recently cast in a show 45 minutes from her house.  When she asked the director if he could possibly call her because of the distance involved, his response was "we don't do that here".

I am firmly in favor of the "we'll call you by 11:00 tonight if you are cast; if not, thank you for auditioning and please come back again" school of thought.  I also think it's imperative to write a little thank you note to those not cast thanking them for their time and interest, and inviting them to help out in a tech area and come back to audition for the next show.

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bullet Posted: 10/02/06 at 2:58pm

As a director I do call everyone back who auditions. Personally, I don't like leaving people hanging. I call the leads first to make sure they say yes, and then continue down the rest of the list. I do like the idea of posting of the cast list on the internet, that is if you have a web master that is "johnny-on-the-spot".

I have a another question along the same lines. What do you do if you don't have enough people audition for the number of parts you need? I have found that we have quite a few members who won't show up to auditions, but they will drop me a line letting me know they are available if I need them. Which, puts me in a new predicament.  Do I cast the one that actually shows up to auditions (but doesn't fit the part) over the one who didn't come to auditions (but is better suited for the role).

Ah.....it never ends.....

 

 

 

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