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bullet Posted: 2/11/05 at 4:09pm
The expanding foam in a can is best. Lay the flats down on the ground and make large dollops of foam. They expand and sort of come together a bit and create random shapes. They stick to the flats forever. I used this technique to create a stone fireplace. Once painted I looked so real that people were astonished when one person could pick it up and move it.


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bullet Posted: 2/21/05 at 10:46pm
To LCT.  Thanks for giving that wonderful website for the fake brick.  Wanted to know, is the brick a sheet that would be applied to a flat?  Or is it stand alone?  How do you support it?  Thanks.
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bullet Posted: 5/21/05 at 11:38am
What my theator used for West Side Story set was cutting styrofome into long lines with a table saw then into bricks with a template (we made a few out of luan) and a box cutter. We put the bricks onto the flats via cocking. It sounds tedius, but if you have alot of help it goes by quickly. One more thing, remember to make sure the rows of bricks are level about every two to three rows. This will help you avoid having to re-do an entire wall of bricks. (I wish we had done this!)
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bullet Posted: 9/11/06 at 7:11am
Provost Display rocks and such, which I've used a few times, comes (generally) in a 4X8' sheet.  One tip, purchase the thickest you can afford as it's wonderful stuff, but worthless once it gets dented.  The thin stuff will survive a production, but nothing after that.

Still, it's $$$ if you're doing a large set.  Better to use some of the other suggestions, which can be just as convincing, if you're worried about budget.
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bullet Posted: 9/11/06 at 11:18am

I have a different way to paint brick:  Paint the grout color as a background.  Tape the grout joints with masking tape or duct tape the correct width for the grout joint.  This is particularly good if you are painting perspective on the flat or backdrop....the tape can be your vanishing point....pull it  tight and  it is straighter than a pencil line.  Then roll out the brick color...splattered, highlighted, whatever....much quicker than dipping and pressing a sponge for each brick.   Pull off the tape...nice clean lines.

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Joan 54 has a great technique.  You could also add texture to the brick by using a sanded paint (used to waterproof basements) or sprinkling the paint you already have with "ceiling texture" (the kind used for creating those popcorn ceilings).  The texture comes in bags that can be fine, medium and coarse and is available at most home improvement stores.
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bullet Posted: 9/11/06 at 11:15pm
I hate to be the 'fly in the ointment' but I have found that painted on brick looks exacltly like that- painted on brick.  Especially in the one CT I work where the audience is so close to the stage they can rest their feet on the stage. It's a very small space in a church basement with a low ceiling.  I directed a production of Norm Foster's "Here On The Flightpath" which takes place on apartment balconies that are side-by-side.  I insisted on and got brick panelling for the outside of the apartment buliding walls.  The audience raved about the set and I won the award for Best Set Design.  I'm sure in big spaces where the audience sits a fair distance from the stage and you have the technology with lights to make it appear to be 3-D painted on brick works magically.  But in the space I had, no matter how well painted the bricks may have been, they would have looked like painted on bricks.  I guess I'm too 'fussy' about realism.
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bullet Posted: 9/13/06 at 8:56am
Oh...I agree Playwright...painted brick and painted anything will always look fake but realism is a hard thing to achieve on the stage....the last brick walls I painted had a view of Verona through the arches...even if the brick was real there was no way to make Verona real.  One of the problems with set design is getting your visual brain away from the movies and into the theater.  Some of the best sets I have  seen had nothing to do with realism but visually enhanced the action on the stage.
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bullet Posted: 9/13/06 at 10:41am
Your spot on Joan!
I experienced painting full back drops with Jimmy Punch, who painted most sets here back in the 60?s. His one alleged claim to fame, was he taught Rolf Harris how to paint on stage, before he became famous. While I think it might have been a bit suss?
However all his drops were of a similar style & that used by many others I worked with. We virtually painted with mops and brooms quickly & highlighted later with smaller brushes. Up close they look sloppy, but 20? or so away, they were great. Jimmy always said "you had to be able to place your minds eye in the Gods, while your painting & at best it was only an imagery support aid to the performance, not realistic!
I suppose his realistic claim to fame at the time, was in the way he finally pegged out on the stage of the Playhouse! He always had a roly weed [cigarette] hanging from the corner of his mouth & smoked it while he painted. He apparently started a fire while cleaning using spirits & he went up in flames!
From what I can remember from what was said at the time, his fag went out & he struck a match, which he did constantly. He may have been better off smoking tailor made 'Lucky Strike' instead!

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That's sad and a hideous way to die but somehow funny the way you tell it....makes us stop and think again about all of those "flammable" warnings that we ignore...and smokers (myself included) are the worst.  We had a local man ( no one I actually knew) explode a room where he was using contact cement....just the fumes....ka-pow.  I'll stick to water based paint.

One of the reasons that I like to paint backdrops is the need to use big brushes and rollers ( I haven't tried mops yet).  As a painter I tend to use smaller and smaller brushes and become fixated on one tiny spot....the drops make me loosen up, stand up and paint LARGE...

Anyways, we digress from the original question about realistic rocks....personally I've never painted any but would probably try the expanding foam...that sounds like fun.  I plannned (but never built) a stone wall for some play and was looking to buy  the fake stone that people put on the front of their houses.....it is absolutely real but pretty expensive.  It is molded and hollow so it quite light....may build that wall some other day and try the foam first.

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