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Posted: 10/14/05 at 6:33pm |
I am a high school teacher. I get paid to teach my sixth-hour, UC Prep Theatre Arts course. One of the requirements to taking the course is participating in at least 1 show that requires rehearsal and performance time outside of class time. I don't get paid to direct/produce the show. (We rent the costumes, but I'm in charge of everything else.) I donate that time to the school and the students (we're small and private). Am I crazy? --Yes, but aren't we all?
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tristanrobin
Celebrity Joined: 4/25/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 704 |
Posted: 10/14/05 at 8:34pm |
I donated my time to the students MANY years ago.
But when I realized that EVERY OTHER extracurricular activity was paid (football coaches, basketball coaches, swimming coaches, debating team coaches, cheerleading coaches, baseball coaches, etc. ad nauseum), I put my foot down. No more free stuff. Over the next fifteen years, my salary for plays went up substantially. But - like all teaching positions - if you actually counted the hours up that were spent on the production, it was probably on par with dropping the fry baskets at Burger King LOL. However - it was the principle of the thing. Heck - they are the ones who insist that I invest in a masters degree to teach this program - why should I not get the return on my investment that every other school position receives? I think it's very important that the arts - and their TEACHERS - are treated with the same respect as every other activity in a school system. |
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MartyW
Celebrity Joined: 2/02/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 555 |
Posted: 10/18/05 at 8:44am |
I belong to five different CT's. A few pay, most don't. Of the ones that pay the most consitant one has a pay schedule as follows: Director (straight play) $300 (Musical) $400 Producer (straight play) $300 (Musical) $400 Music Director $400 Rehearsal Pianist $250 Choreographer $200 Orchestra Member $175 As for whether they should or not, I don't care one way or the other. I do what I do for the fun of it. (although you won't see me NOT take the check when its offered) |
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Maggie Y?
Walk-On Joined: 8/28/06 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 8/29/06 at 9:51am |
Our group has paid the rehearsal pianist. We struggled with the concept,
because once that door is opened, is can be difficult to justify the non- payment of others. Our thoughts were 1) The rest of us have day jobs and doing theatre is something different. For the rehearsal pianist, she gave private lessons and our rehearsal time overlapped with prime time for piano lessons. It wasn't enough money to compare to her self- employment, but it was a recognition that she was working. 2) Rehearsal pianist is more of a non-glam job, without the audience recognition. 3) We were desperate and we needed to count on someone. More of a pragmatic rather than an ethical decision. |
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Nanette
Celebrity Joined: 8/01/06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 399 |
Posted: 9/07/06 at 11:12am |
The last theatre for whom I worked designing and sewing costumes didn't even give me a "thank you". Before that I was paid $200 per show for my work. I would have done it for free for that theatre because they were such a great group ... enthusiastic, cooperative, etc. ... quite a pleasure to work for. |
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castMe
Celebrity Joined: 11/02/05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
Posted: 9/09/06 at 9:35am |
My biggest complaint thru the years has been the concept of paying the
musicians. They come in about a week before we open and begin to
learn the show and then walk off with a nice check after the cast has
worked on these things for 20 or 12 weeks or more. I hadn't
really thought about it until a musician mentioned to me one day how
unfair he felt it was. When I asked why the musicians were paid,
I was told, "Well, these folks are turning down paying gigs on show
nights, so the only way we can get an orchestra is to offer money."
Fine.....great....OK, but what about the high school girl in the show
who works at McDonald's? She's missing a paying "gig" throughout
the whole rehearsal period and run of the show. Why is her money
any less important? Those musicians are picking up additional income to their "day jobs", while high school girl is trying to make some extra money for college.
I'm not angry about this inconsistancy, but it filtered down at one point to a scenic designer who approached me one day and asked if I had a designer for my next production. "No, not yet, are you interested?" "Why, yes I am. I make $500 per show." "Wonderful", I replied. "Where did you receive your theatrical training?" "Why, I didn't go to school for this, I picked it up along the way and decided after attending a number of productions last year that I could do this too." "Good luck to you", I said "I wish you luck. To my knowledge no local theaters pay their scenic designers for non-musical, box sets, and I personnally would never pay anyone with no experience who isn't trained at least as much as I am." Don't really know what any of that means, but that conversation was ages ago and it still rankles when I recall it. No that I've written it all down I can let it go. Deep breath Ahhhhhhhh much better |
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GoldCanyonLady
Celebrity Joined: 2/05/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 172 |
Posted: 9/09/06 at 4:13pm |
No one gets paid for anything. We are strictly volunteers and love it.
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Barb Hofmeister,
MountainBrook Village Players, Gold Canyon, Arizona. |
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eveharrington
Celebrity Joined: 8/28/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 198 |
Posted: 9/16/06 at 2:13am |
Performers are only paid in special situations, like if we have to bring in someone that is not involved with the group to play a specific instrument or something. And we have to pay the venue for a bartender when we do a bar but they don't really count I guess. We never pay actors, directors, or crew.
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red diva
Celebrity Joined: 5/15/06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 199 |
Posted: 9/25/06 at 2:44pm |
I belong to one of the same theatres as MartyW, and wanted to add a little to what he reported. I've been around this group for 34 years, and when I first started no-one was "paid" (we preferred to call it a "stipend" or "honorarium"). A member who was getting his degree in theatre (this would have been in about 1978-79) and who has since gone on to teach/direct in academic circles insisted that we would attract a more informed, talented, experienced group of directors if we offered them money. Several others and I argued that this was a dangerous precedent to set, and wondered where it would all stop. Shift to present day. The money didn't attract a whole new group of directors (3 of our 5 directors this past season are the same ones that were directing 28 years ago) and now we also "pay" the producer, music director, choreographer, musicians....and one of the usual set builders has started to campaign for payment. Indeed, where does it all end? And what did the money accomplish? |
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"I've worked long and hard to earn the right to be called Diva!"
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MartyW
Celebrity Joined: 2/02/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 555 |
Posted: 10/03/06 at 10:45am |
Just to keep it between the yellow lines... On Diva's message, she is so right on where does it end... BUT, (and only because it matters to her and me and not to most of you) it was a set dresser that desires payment, the builders and to a same degree that dresser really only wanted what we all want in a way. To be appreciated.. I think we often fall short in appreciating those around us.. Particularly in C.T. and particularly those who do our tech... I think all of us need to find more ways to make people feel appreciated and to say thank you... Might sound like a small, even petty thing, but it is just like giving medals in the Army... We say "Great job, thank you for risking your life.. Here is a medal, go do it again next week" Same concept with people who do the "work" of the theater.. If you don't say thank you sometimes, they just seem to go away... Where all this pay stuff comes from is when we turn around and they are all gone, we resort to the wallet, when we should have been appealing to the soul...
Thank a Techie.. (or anyone else that makes it possible)
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Marty W
"Till next we trod the boards.." |
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