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Shatcher
Celebrity Joined: 2/21/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 251 |
Posted: 10/26/05 at 10:07am |
Gosh, and I thought it was just me. I now techs will never get the attention that actors get and that is fine. if I needed that kind of ego stroke I would be an actor. I have nothing against actors and happen to be married to one. I would like to be treated with the same level of respect that actors demand. As martyw said us techs often work as many if not more hours on a show than some of the actors. One of the shows I did last year I had an actor tell one of our stagecrew that she could not be bothered to learn the names of the people on the crew because it was beneath her. This crew member was very upset because she had bent over backwards to make sure the props were set just so for this actor. I could not belive it! I was SM so I had to talk to this actor (she was new to our company) She told me that in a real theatre it would be the same way and the crew would not dare to speak to an actor. I told her that is not how we do things here and she has not been cast again because the directors were not to happy about it. I wonder if this gal would like doing a show on a bare stage, in the dark, naked with no make up?
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MartyW
Celebrity Joined: 2/02/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 555 |
Posted: 10/26/05 at 10:38am |
Not that I believe her position for an iota.... I would have still had to say... "Mabye so, but if she could hack it in "REAL" theater than she wouldn't be stuck here with us"
But hey, don't get me started... |
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Linda S
Celebrity Joined: 4/16/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 312 |
Posted: 10/26/05 at 11:16am |
Shatcher took the words right out of my mouth. It is what I tell my cast at the start of every show. How would you like to be " . . . doing a show on a bare stage, in the dark, naked with no make up?" I do think the director sets the tone. At the first rehearsal I take the time to introduce the my tech people and the cast to each other. ie. Mary was the lead in our sold out show last year. She will be playing the part of Diane in this show. John is doing lights for us. John designed lights for our beautiful production last fall. I am excited that he will be lighting our show. I include all of my tech people in notes, and ask them if they have any suggestions about how the show is running backstage. I am often surprised by what I learn when I ask. When I was doing The Christmas Carol last year I took a minute at notes to tell the costumer how much I appreciated her hard work and how beautiful the costumes were. The cast gave her a standing ovation. She and I both burst into tears. It was as moving a moment as the standing ovation the cast got opening night. As for the actress who couldn't be bothered to learn the names of tech crew. She wouldn't be working with me either. My tech crew is invaluable. They are who are with me from show to show and sometimes from theater to theater. I couldn't do what I do without them. Linda |
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Joan54
Celebrity Joined: 10/03/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 207 |
Posted: 10/26/05 at 1:49pm |
Linda....I like how you work. I have worked with directors who included me in the rehearsal and note process and I appreciated it. No one works well in a vacuum. One of the hardest parts of costume design has been working alone for months feeling that I was there alone - that maybe it wasn't actually going to happen - that maybe I was moving in the wrong direction. When the rehearsals start I need to see how my work "performs" on stage. I hope all directors learn from this and include everyone in the critical rehearsal process. I try to attend as many rehearsals as possible...adding components as they are ready...not waiting for the end to have "tech" rehearsals. On big costume shows I bring my trunk and sewing machine to the theater and work while the rehearsal is going on. On a few big budget projects we even made "rehearsal clothes" so that the cast could work through their blocking wearing big skirts or short tunics or whatever they needed to move in character. But I wandered away from the topic....thanks to you and all other directors who include the tech people in notes and rehearsal as equals. |
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TheActingTechie
Player Joined: 3/13/06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 29 |
Posted: 3/13/06 at 8:47pm |
I don't think that techies get nearly the respect they deserve. As someone who is mainly an actor, but also an expeirenced techie, I can see it from both sides of the spectrum. Actors think they have the hardest job, and think that the play will run perfectly as long as they do their best. In actuallity, the techies have a much harder job, not just dealing with technical work, but also dodging around actors egos.
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Unclepeter
Lead Joined: 7/26/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 37 |
Posted: 3/13/06 at 10:12pm |
I did not realize it but I, thankfully, am involved in a "small" theatre group. Those of us who are predominately actors also cross to the tech side in building sets, painting, constuming, and virtually everything else but lights and sound. We are blessed with some (read "a few") truly wonderful folks who, when they are not in the production, are more than willing to help out backstage. Accordingly, we, for the most part, have a wonderful appreciation for the magnitude of work that goes on behind the scenes to create a successful run. Our lights and sound folks are top notch "amateurs" that can match virtually anything I have seen in professional theatre, having developed their skills through their desire to make their contribution to the show. I became involved in theatre by going to rehearsals with my 14 year old son who was assisting in the light and sound booth. By the time he was 16, he was in charge of the lighting for "Fiddler On The Roof". He asked the director for a lighting plot and was told to "play with it". When he asked what she meant, he was told that she had seen some of his work on other productions and she wanted to see what he could develop. As a sixteen year old, this was a lot of pressure, but he took it on and was highly successful with only limited changes from the director. A local review commented on the wonderful lighting in the production. Following the opening night, the director told him that she had developed a lighting plot prior to his question to her but she wanted him to become more than just a button pusher or slider operator. He now is involved in theatre at college and still supports our group when possible. I think the director's willingness to trust her instincts about him contributed immeasurably to his desire to excel. We fully appreciate our techs. They are as much (or more) a part of our contribution to the community as the actors or director. During curtain call, we always recognize our techs by name. Sometimes small seems better since you get a full understanding of all the things that go into making a show.
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"Good judgement comes from experience - and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." (Will Rogers)
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Techiemama
Player Joined: 1/02/07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 1/22/07 at 6:50am |
In our family, my son and I are techies, my husband and daughter are actors. I enjoy the backstage, and love giving encouragement, water and 'the go-ahead' to my family. I have no desire whatsoever to go out onstage. In our current production, the director demanded that the entire tech crew come out for a bow every performance AFTER the leads. I ran and hid, along with several other crew members. Some of us actually like the dark and enjoy the behind the scenes magic with the smoke and mirrors.
-TechieMama
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pdavis69
Celebrity Joined: 3/26/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
Posted: 1/22/07 at 4:29pm |
I have many times made the statement that if people did not appreciate the techies, the techies should walk and let the "actors only" people perform on blank sets lit by shop lights. I make this statement over and over and yet when producers/directors get in a jam because no one will build for them, I find myself eating crow and building the set. I do this for the "good of the theatre". I would love to get the recognition for my sets that I get for my acting but alas that is not to be. Even when I refuse to be the lad builder and walk away, I find myself backing up Marty on his crew. I guess we just have to life with the satisfaction and recognition that we give ourselves. I seriously doubt that anyone would pay to sit and look at my set for two hours if there were no actors on the stage. But still I have to ask "Can't we all just get along?"
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Aimee
Celebrity Joined: 8/31/04 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 156 |
Posted: 1/24/07 at 8:53pm |
Speaking of no respect,
I just had the director tell me (the Tech Director) she decided to add a Saturday matinee performance, as well as the Sat evening show. THEN after she set the show time she says to me "I hope you are available all day Saturday." she is having two casts so the cast won't be the same. Her assistant director is trying to talk her into each of them taking 1 show... so who has to stay all day??? yep, me and my crew. OH it's going to be a long day.
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Gaafa
Celebrity Joined: 3/21/04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1181 |
Posted: 1/24/07 at 11:23pm |
The AD has to have rocks in her socks!
Me thinks she believes ‘AD’ stands for Alternative Director? Tin Lids have more than enough oomph to do two shows on Saturday & still want to rave on afterwards! Anyhow ‘Techies Respect’ it reminds me of an incident at the ‘Old Vic’ with a some what famous [within his own lunch box] Shakespearian actor/director years ago. The techie was having major lighting problems, during a dress rehearsal that Sir Lunch Box was directing. This director become very annoyed at the time delays, getting rather bitter & his breaks all twisted. Marched to the centre of the stage with a fist on hips, to stand like a ‘tea pot in a number 2 ballet pose. He then proceed to berate the techie in the bio box in front of the assembled cast, as being completely incompetent. Shouting that "this would never have happened in Shakespearian times!". The techie slid back the bio box window & shouted back ‘Yes & you know who did the lighting for Shakespear back then?" To this the director sarcastically replied "No my man pray tell me WHO?" The techie answered back "GOD!" At that the techie turned off the Mains Switch, pulled the fuses & went home! |
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Joe
Western Gondawandaland turn right @ Perth. Hear the light & see the sound. Toi Toi Toi Chookas {{"chook [chicken] it is"} May you always play to a full house} |
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