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Quote darklord1967 Replybullet Posted: 9/05/12 at 4:19pm




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Quote darklord1967 Replybullet Posted: 9/11/12 at 3:15am
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Originally posted by Torontogosh

  Well I guess you really don’t believe in the 5 foot rule of theater costumes, do you?



“The Five Foot Rule”??  I can’t say I was familiar with that particular rule, so I looked it up.  From  Wordpress.com:  

“The 5 foot rule basically states that mistakes or rough un-finished details which can’t be seen from 5 feet away are irrelevant because no audience member will be any closer to the costume – great for theater…”

So to answer your question:  I guess I really DON’T believe in the 5-foot rule. Big%20smile
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Quote darklord1967 Replybullet Posted: 4/06/13 at 2:18am
Greetings friends, family, cosplayers, theater lovers, Batman fans, and supporters of Arts in Education!

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Quote jayzehr Replybullet Posted: 4/07/13 at 9:08am
Sounds like an interesting project.  How hard was it to get the rights for this?
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Quote MusicManD Replybullet Posted: 4/13/13 at 10:33am
Originally posted by jayzehr

Sounds like an interesting project.  How hard was it to get the rights for this?


From the official website:

"Batman and related characters are the property of DC Comics and Warner Bros. Entertainment. “Fathers of the Dark Knight” is a non-profit, student cosplay stage production that is in no way sponsored, approved, endorsed, nor licensed by DC Comics, Warner Bros. or any of their affiliates."

In other words, he never got the rights to do this.    The "cosplay" angle is one I hadn't thought of before, but I'm pretty sure mounting a full production is completely different than just dressing up for Halloween or Comicon. OP, I sincerely hope you have your legal ducks all in a row, because I would love to see this thing get off the ground.
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Quote jayzehr Replybullet Posted: 4/14/13 at 6:05pm
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In other words, he never got the rights to do this.    The "cosplay" angle is one I hadn't thought of before, but I'm pretty sure mounting a full production is completely different than just dressing up for Halloween or Comicon. OP, I sincerely hope you have your legal ducks all in a row, because I would love to see this thing get off the ground.


This appears to be very heavily promoted in NYC  so I can't see how the legal end wouldn't be covered.  On the other hand, it doesn't seem likely that one could use popular copyrighted characters and images for free in a stage play by saying it was "cosplay."  But if that's possible I'd love to know more about it.
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Quote darklord1967 Replybullet Posted: 5/18/13 at 4:00pm
Greetings Batman fans!!

The indiegogo.com fund-raising campaign for the all-student stage play "FATHERS OF THE DARK KNIGHT" is now active!

This is YOUR chance to contribute to a worthy cause and support Arts in Education for talented kids! Help me provide these hard-working students with an ambitious, exciting production that they can call their own by showing your generous support!

There are TONS of awesome perks available at different levels of donation! Click on the link below and get involved NOW!


FOTDK@indiegogo.com

Thank you so very much! 
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Quote jayzehr Replybullet Posted: 5/22/13 at 3:06pm
So, Darklord, any chance you could share with the rest of us the process you went though regarding the rights for this project as was discussed earlier?
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Quote darklord1967 Replybullet Posted: 5/23/13 at 5:08pm
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Actually there was no “process”.  As was stated before, my stage play is a “… non-profit, student cosplay stage production that is in no way sponsored, approved, endorsed, nor licensed by DC Comics, Warner Bros. or any of their affiliates…”  No admission will be charged to see the show. It will be a limited 5-performance run, performed in a college campus auditorium.

 

I did not seek licensing for this student production from DC Comics / Warner Bros.,  nor was any required of me.  In 2004, DC Comics / Warners released the following statement regarding fan-based projects, and it has been their policy ever since.

"Warner Bros. definitely appreciates the enthusiasm and respect of its fans. We will continue to monitor the use of Warner Bros. properties as used in fan films/ creations. However, we will only consider taking action against such projects that are either commercial in nature, are commercially exploited or otherwise engage in or depict inappropriate activity."


The kind of stage play I am producing definitely has previous precedent:


In 2011, an Austin, TX troupe produced “Holy 1960’s Batman, Batman” as a community theater event.  This was an un-licensed production with a limited performance run.


Several Hollywood celebrities got together in 2012 to produce a series of LA stage events called “The 24-hour plays”.  One of the shows they did featured Matt Smith (of “Dr Who” fame) as Batman in a segment called “Gotham Autopsy”.  Several other Batman comic strip characters appeared in the show as well.  Again, limited run, and un-licenced.


“Holy Bouncing Boobies: A Batman Burlesque” was produced in Skokie, IL, completely un-licenced and limited run in August of 2012.



There was also the elaborate stage musical “Holy Musical B@tman!” produced last year by an LA stage troupe.  Not only did this production feature a full compliment of Batman characters, but other DC Comic book characters as well.  The youtube video of this production states up front that it is unlicensed and un-endorsed.


So, to answer your question: The process required for this type of thing is really quite simple:  Avoid making it a commercial venture that generates any kind of money and or profit.  This is obviously, something very few producers are willing to do! LOL! 


This production is being produced by my students and I out of love for the character and the mythology... not to make any money.  The guideline by DC / Warners  that mandates a non-profit / non-commercial status and appropriate depictions of the characters  is one that my production strictly adheres to… even if some of the productions listed above did not.



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Quote jayzehr Replybullet Posted: 5/24/13 at 8:12pm
Thanks, Darklord!  That's really interesting information.  I wish you the best for your production. It's obviously a great labor of love for you.
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