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peacock
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Topic: Speeding up scene changes Posted: 3/14/11 at 12:05pm |
We just finished our annual play. I was pretty satisfied with everything, except the scene changes. We are very slow. There is not fly, and the wings are pretty narrow, so we spend a lot of time trying to shuffle things around. Any suggestions on ways to speed up, besides just not having anything on stage.
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Majicwrench
Celebrity Joined: 2/07/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 3/14/11 at 12:45pm |
In my humble opinion most small theatre companies do waaaay tooooo much scene changing, and make it waaaaay tooooo complicated. The last two shows I have done I have used flats painted basicly one color and we just carried on and off a handful of props and such to set the scenes.
Less is More.
Are yoiu doing scene changes with curtain open or closed?? Scene change can be somewhat entertaining if done right.
I do have flats that fold out, like pages in a book, so I can change the whole look very quickly if that is what I want. But at the moment I am really into the bare bones approach.
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David McCall
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Posted: 3/14/11 at 4:44pm |
Think choreography. Make sure each item has one or two kids (if needed) assigned to it. Before each scene change, have the kids stand in a position that is as close as they can to where the item will be placed or removed from the stage, then have them close their eyes and look away from the lights until the blackout. It helps to get the eyes adjusted to seeing in limited light. When the lights go out they will move their items in their predefined choreography so that they don't crash into each other. As soon as their item is placed, they should leave the stage quickly and quietly.
Scene changes should be measured in seconds, never minutes.
You can get fancy and leave some light on the stage (side or backlight) while attempting to make the choreography interesting for the audience.
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B-M-D
Celebrity Joined: 11/03/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 346 |
Posted: 3/14/11 at 8:15pm |
If appropriate to the play try to have all locations on stage to begin with and do your scene changes with lighting transitions.
Another suggestion is to have the change happen while another scene is occuring at a different location on stage. However this method requires "choreography", speed and silence on the part of your stage crew. Also is it possible for the actors themselves to make the changes in the transition from one scene to the next? I would avoid blackouts of ANY kind for scene changes at almost any cost. Blackouts in my opinion are a sign of laziness and in general show a lack of creativity or sense of entertainment. |
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David McCall
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Posted: 3/14/11 at 8:41pm |
Blackouts or curtains can be magical if the time is minimal. It is cool to see the stage go black and then come back with a completely new scene a few seconds later. I've also seen beautifully done period pieces where the light never changed. Pretty much anything can work if you design your scene changes for efficiency.
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JoeMc
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Posted: 3/14/11 at 11:37pm |
30 seconds is far too long for a scene change, unless it's during a blue or a brownout. Generally I strive for seamless changes, which are engineered during the rehearsal/blocking period & choreographed for the cue - cue [top/tail between cues _ first last lines] tech rehearsals, [except I include all the music numbers for a Musical]. Edited by JoeMc - 3/15/11 at 7:17am |
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edh915
Celebrity Joined: 11/19/09 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 325 |
Posted: 3/15/11 at 12:01am |
If you can't do it in less than 35 seconds, then don't do it. Figure out an alternative set design.
Majicwrench and David McCall are both one hundred percent correct. It really helps to have (appropriate) music playing, and a choreographed approach is the only way to go. Recently saw a production of "The Shape Of Things" that required longer than normal set changes - not because the set was complicated, but because the lead actor had to undergo physical transformations (weight loss, hair style, clothing changes, etc.) and there was no time for it except for the scene change times. The director worked out a whole mimed secondary story with the set change crew - working together, having a falling out, making up, and getting back together. It worked really well, and I don't think they had any scene change longer than a minute and a half, but that was a unique situation. Under ordinary circumstances stick to the 35 second rule. I'm a fierce proponent of "less is more." The audience will always be glad to meet you more than halfway. They're not as dumb as some directors think they are. |
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NDTENOR
Star Joined: 1/18/11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 49 |
Posted: 3/15/11 at 12:19am |
Yes..... one of the things that definitely defines an "amateurish" vs. a "more professional" production is well organized and efficient scene changes. And in a very real way they need to be "choreographed" just like a dance number.
The audience generally will "accept" a scene change , even if it is done in full light as long as it is done quickly and efficiently and people seem to know what they are doing. And , of course , many classic and traditional musicals incorporate an "on one" song where there is a soloist who does a number in front of a closed curtain to allow for a big scene change to take place behind the curtain and the next scene begins immediately after the song. |
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vickifrank
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Posted: 3/15/11 at 9:38am |
Consider dividing your stage into upstage and downstage. Close the mid curtain and play a scene downstage while changes are occuring upstage. Or use a scrim to divide the stage and project backgrounds on the scrim for upstage scenes and look through the scrim (or travel it off--don't use sharkstooth, it doesn't travel well) for the upstage scenes.
This way no-one needs to see a scene change again.
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David McCall
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Posted: 3/15/11 at 11:51am |
Very few venues have enough depth to do a full stage projection from behind a projection surface, so you have to project from the front. When projecting from the front you have the problem of those pesky actors needing to be seen. This involves a lot of compromise.
If the actors go upstage at all, they will be partially lit by the projection so you have to design your scene so that there is very little detail near the bottom of the image. The actors shadows will put shadows on your projection too, thus destroying any detail that might be at the bottom.
Then comes the need to light the actors. If the director has them moving around then you need quite a bit of light downstage and that light will wash out your image on the scrim. Even if you can focus such that none of the direct light hits the scrim there will be bounce off of the floor (even if the stage is painted black).
Light from the projection will get through the scrim and light the activity behind the scrim. This causes a double image in some cases, and it will reveal all of the ghost moving stuff around behind the scrim.
Scrims are not wonderful for projection for all of the above reasons, but it can be done. The best thing, if actors need to be in front of the scrim, is to use a painted or printed scrim instead of a projection.
We have a white downstage scrim that a director always wants to use in this way and we do it every show, and it looks like ....
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