Community Theater Green Room Discussion Board: Ball park...how much are the rights for C

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John Luzaich
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Posted: 10/25/10 at 3:15pm

If you're looking to lower expenses and not revenue, try producing shows through Daramtists and Sam French for a year, and not Dramatic. For our venue, we save about $2,000-$3,000 by not producing a season of shows through Dramatic.

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Posted: 10/26/10 at 10:23am

Really? I found that Dramatic Publishing tends to be cheaper across the board. For Narnia (with seating of 150 at an average of $16 ticket price) we are paying $95 a performance, which is a far cry from what I received from Samuel French for The Secret Garden (Different dates, but still same ticket price and seating) was $295 per performance. From the quotes I have received, I have found Samuel French to be the most expensive for musicals, next to MTI.

That's just what I perceived based on the quotes I have been sent.

Landon Parks,
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Posted: 10/28/10 at 4:30pm

(for non musicals) For most plays through Dramatists & Sam French we pay between $360-$750 for a 6 performance run of a show. Through Dramatic Publishing we pay between $1,250-$1,500 for a six performance run of a show. Multiply that times 2, 3, 4 or 5 shows in a season and that becomes a huge difference. We're saving money by not producing shows with Dramatic this year.

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Posted: 10/28/10 at 4:35pm

I have not received a "play" quote from Dramatic yet - I just figured they were like all other "big" play publishers (flat fee usually between $75 and $100 per performance). I know this can go higher if your house seats more than 300 people though, or at least according to Sam french and Dramatist website. Can't find any such details on Dramatics website - only that all groups besides schools must apply for a quote (which for a play, seems odd to me - most houses list the basic royalty upfront).

Landon Parks,
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John Luzaich Celebrity Joined: 2/24/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 10/25/10 at 3:15pm
	If you're looking to lower expenses and not revenue, try producing shows through Daramtists and Sam French for a year, and not Dramatic. For our venue, we save about $2,000-$3,000 by not producing a season of shows through Dramatic.
	John cfct@cfu.net http://www.osterregent.org http://www.facebook.com/osterregent
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lparks Star Joined: 1/12/10 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 10/26/10 at 10:23am
	Really? I found that Dramatic Publishing tends to be cheaper across the board. For Narnia (with seating of 150 at an average of $16 ticket price) we are paying $95 a performance, which is a far cry from what I received from Samuel French for The Secret Garden (Different dates, but still same ticket price and seating) was $295 per performance. From the quotes I have received, I have found Samuel French to be the most expensive for musicals, next to MTI. That's just what I perceived based on the quotes I have been sent.
	Landon Parks, Producing Artistic Director, Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co
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John Luzaich Celebrity Joined: 2/24/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Posted: 10/28/10 at 4:30pm
	(for non musicals) For most plays through Dramatists & Sam French we pay between $360-$750 for a 6 performance run of a show. Through Dramatic Publishing we pay between $1,250-$1,500 for a six performance run of a show. Multiply that times 2, 3, 4 or 5 shows in a season and that becomes a huge difference. We're saving money by not producing shows with Dramatic this year.
	John cfct@cfu.net http://www.osterregent.org http://www.facebook.com/osterregent
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lparks Star Joined: 1/12/10 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Posted: 10/28/10 at 4:35pm
	I have not received a "play" quote from Dramatic yet - I just figured they were like all other "big" play publishers (flat fee usually between $75 and $100 per performance). I know this can go higher if your house seats more than 300 people though, or at least according to Sam french and Dramatist website. Can't find any such details on Dramatics website - only that all groups besides schools must apply for a quote (which for a play, seems odd to me - most houses list the basic royalty upfront).
	Landon Parks, Producing Artistic Director, Bloomington Repertory Theatre Co
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