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    Posted: 7/30/08 at 12:36am
On average how much do you budget for a musical and how much for a straight play?

Our musicals are anywhere between $7,000 and $12,000 and straight plays are around $2,600 and $3,000.

Just curious what everyone else spends.
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bullet Posted: 8/12/08 at 10:37am
Wow, that's quite generous :)

I suppose those are not uncommon numbers, but I've always been madam frugal. 

I usually do $1500-2000 for straight plays (sometimes less).  I don't do many musicals, but I am directing Sweeney Todd this fall, and I've budgeted somewhere around $6000 for it, the vast majority of that going to cover the rights, book rentals, paying the orchestra etc.  I think I have around $1500 left for production costs.  It's tight, but I've sort of made a reputation for myself doing good shows on a shoestring. 

Sounds dirt cheap (and it is), but we have a lot of good contacts who own local businesses (antique shops, costume shops, florists etc)... so we borrow a lot of things in exchange for a "special thanks" mention.  Plus we have a very well stocked theatre when it comes to lumber, props, costumes, so most anything will already be there.   The first rule if I need something that isn't already there is to try to get it donated. :)  

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bullet Posted: 8/12/08 at 10:49am
we don't have an actual theatre. We rent stages at the community college or a high school. Maybe that's why our cost is a little higher. We also do 2 weekends.
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bullet Posted: 8/12/08 at 7:31pm
We're renting a theater as well and being madam frugal we still spend 2,000-2,500 for a straight play running one week.   I think somewhere around 1500 of that right off the top is for theater rental and rights, so it's tough to get it down any lower.
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bullet Posted: 11/03/08 at 6:23pm
We do a straight play for about $5000.00 and a musical at about $11,000. We have 12 performances. We also have our own theatre. These are budget numbers, and we usually come in under that, due to the fact that we recycle most of our sets. We are also a theatre that has been in our building for 25 years and producing shows for 51 years.
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bullet Posted: 11/03/08 at 6:42pm
I've got 2 straight play shows (no musicals yet) under my belt from the past 2 years of a new company.  Our first show was about $3000; last years was $4000.

But that's not just for the show, that was our operating budget for the entire run - so included things like start up costs.  We cut a lot of corners the first year - made do with whatever we could.  Last year (the 4k year) we made a lot of purchases that'll be re-used for years... like probably 40 caster wheels for moving large set pieces.  The facility we use has wheels, but they suck, so we just bought our own.  A pretty expensive investment, but we never had a problem rolling our sets around and we had a lot of pieces last year that'll probably mean we'll never buy wheels again for quite some time.
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bullet Posted: 3/26/09 at 5:57pm

Going back to Tony, the original poster asking how much various theatres spend on shows, musical and non-musical... our budget is between 5 - 8,000 for a non-musical, 12 - 15,000 for a musical.  (we spent about $21,000 on Pippin)  I know there are theatres that spend much less and some theatres that spend more.  There's no right or wrong, it depends on your circumstances and mostly, your royalties.  Since musical royalties are based on three factors, there are theatres that produce the same show for less money than we do and some theatres that spend more than we do.  Royalties are beyond our control. (well, yes, we could produce few performances and therfore pay less roylty, but you know what I mean).

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bullet Posted: 4/13/09 at 12:16am
We have a theatre with 49 years in the community, and our own building and staff of 2 full time, 6 part time.  We do six nights of straight plays over two weeks, 8 nights of musicals over three weeks.  We budget 5,000-7,000 usually for straight plays and 9,000-12,000 usually for musicals.  Although bigger ones like Beauty or Wizard of Oz have crossed the $20,000 mark. 
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bullet Posted: 4/17/09 at 11:21am
Sounds like we might have similar sized organizations.  What's the community theatre web site address?  Ours is www.osterregent.org
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bullet Posted: 4/17/09 at 12:02pm

I work with a very small community theatre that is entirely volunteer run.  We spend about $1500 for a straight play and $5000 for musicals!  And that is usually the top of the budget for us.  Although we are working at increasing our patronbase so that we can look at doing some of the more expensive shows without losing a lot of money on them.

We also work with local companies for donations in exchange for ads in our programs and tickets to the show. 
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