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Quote donzolidis Replybullet Posted: 2/16/09 at 5:02pm
The musical sounds like a version of the board game, not the stage version of the movie, which is what everyone is trying to find. They probably wrote that themselves.
 
And since rights aren't available and never have been available, I'd wager that the people doing Clue on-stage transcribed it from the movie and performed it that way. I bet lots of theatres have done this.
 
But there is no stage version of the movie, and it doesn't sound like the people who own the rights are interested in making one. Too bad. I'm sure lots of theatres would love to do it, and it would be an easy adaptation.
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Quote SpenceKenzer Replybullet Posted: 2/22/09 at 2:30am
The board game "Clue" is known in the U.K. (and other places outside of North America) as "Cluedo".

There is a British stage play of "Cluedo" by Robert Duncan, produced successfully in the 1980's.  The play has not been formally published by any publishing house.  The rights to perform (and presumably copy) this play are currently held by Ian Liston of The Hiss & Boo Company Ltd. in the U.K.

I sent him an email, requesting a copy of the play.  He replied saying that it is currently unavailable.  In 2007 or 2008 Hasbro signed a multi-movie deal with Universal to develop movies based on Hasbro's most well-known board games and other toy properties, one of which is "Clue".  Because of this deal between Hasbro and Universal, Hasbro is no longer granting permission to perform the play "Cluedo" by Robert Duncan.

Anybody out there have a copy of "Cluedo" the play by Robert Duncan?
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Quote SpenceKenzer Replybullet Posted: 2/22/09 at 2:34am
Originally posted by sonshine

Okay, did try:
They may not be what you're looking for


The first link IS an example of what I/we are looking for here.

The second link refers to "Clue: the Musical", which is currently available thru Samuel French, Inc.  "Clue: the Musical" is NOT in any way related to "Clue" the 1985 movie, NOR is it in any way related to Robert Duncan's non-musical play "Cluedo".
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Quote SpenceKenzer Replybullet Posted: 3/03/09 at 4:09pm
This posting duplicates one I made in the Poll "Royalties paid - always, sometimes, or never?"

Originally posted by imamember

Well.....technically there are no rights available to even apply for right?


Yes ... technically ... but ...

Hasbro officially holds the stage rights, particularly for any aspect of the "Clue" screenplay that is a direct aspect of their board game,

Paramount officially holds the rights for any aspect of the "Clue" screenplay that is NOT a direct aspect of the Hasbro board game.
... so technically I need some kind of permission from both Hasbro &  Paramount.

    * I have received direct email communication from Paramount Licensing saying "Paramount is not interested in licensing any of its rights in the Picture [CLUE] or the Screenplay at this time."
    * I have received communication from a rights-holder for the stage adaptation "Cluedo" that Hasbro is no longer granting permission to perform existing stage adaptations of their game, due to a recent deal with Universal to develop movies based on Hasbro products including "Clue".

So ... if my CT wants to produce "Clue the movie the play" I guess we'd be doing so without the direct permission of Hasbro & Paramount.

I guess that's why I posted this poll -- I want to know how common it is for CT's to perform plays without permission and/or without paying royalties to someone.

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Quote imamember Replybullet Posted: 3/03/09 at 5:17pm
If it's common or not is irrelevant though right? 
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Quote SpenceKenzer Replybullet Posted: 3/04/09 at 10:32am
Originally posted by imamember

If it's common or not is irrelevant though right? 


Sorry?  I don't understand what you mean.  Can you say it another way to clarify?
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Quote returntosender Replybullet Posted: 3/05/09 at 8:49am
Originally posted by SpenceKenzer

I want to know how common it is for CT's to perform plays without permission and/or without paying royalties to someone.


It's not very uncommon to do a play without rights if your CT doesn't get much (if any) "noise" outside of your community. Theaters that are more well known usually have to get the rights because they are subject to the press. Though I'm sure there have been fairly big productions of rights-less plays that never got in any trouble-- but it's a risk
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Quote returntosender Replybullet Posted: 3/09/09 at 10:45am
i got in contact with the director of this play: http://www.plymouthrocket.com/bayplayers/clue.html ("Clue: The Play" from 2006). He says that he gets a lot of inquiries about rights to the play, and the general consensus is that it's under free domain. Meaning that no rights are necessary. Success!
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Quote SpenceKenzer Replybullet Posted: 3/10/09 at 2:15pm
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i got in contact with the director of this play: http://www.plymouthrocket.com/bayplayers/clue.html ("Clue: The Play" from 2006). He says that he gets a lot of inquiries about rights to the play, and the general consensus is that it's under free domain. Meaning that no rights are necessary. Success!

I suspect his information is incomplete or inaccurate or both. 
Did that CT perform
(1) their own adaptation of the movie "Clue", or
(2) someone else's adaptation of the movie "Clue"
... and if (2) then whose adaptation, and where did they get it?

There was a stage adaptation written and performed during the last 10 years at The Dark Room, a "pirate" and cabaret style live theatre venue in San Francisco.  Copies of this adaptation, written by Jim Fourniadis and Cameron Eng, have been floating around the Internet.  HOWEVER, they all disavow any ownership of the adaptation, and request that IF you use it that you not mention them or their theater company by name EVER ANYWHERE.

That gives me the sense that they are (as we all should be) conscious that they do not have permission from the rights holder(s) for this stage adaptation or any performance of it.

No, I don't mean to "be a wet blanket" or "rain on your parade".  I want my own CT to produce a stage version of the movie "Clue" as much and as badly as anyone!  That doesn't mean I can blindly ignore possible legal ramifications if the rights holder(s) for that property were to take notice.
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