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Goldberry
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Joined: 11/03/08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
   Posted: 11/05/08 at 1:04pm |
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I tape as many of my shows as I can, just for posterity.
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Scott B
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Joined: 12/08/04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 239 |
Posted: 11/06/08 at 12:19am |
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How many are taping? Well ... anytime I want to know about a show and take a peek at some video, I just head for youtube. Heck ... I think you can almost watch all of Wicked.
 Seriously ... I can not even imagine what I would pay today to see the shows I did in high school. I think something is seriously wrong when an actor cannot have a copy of their performance. 
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stageman 2
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Joined: 8/20/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Posted: 11/06/08 at 7:28am |
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My question is still what the ramifications would be to the community theater that was caught. I was told it could result in a blackballing effect from the publishing companies.
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Les Liss
Fine Arts, County of Effingham info@effinghamface.com www.effinghamface.com Always be yourself because the ones that matter don't care and the ones that care don't matter. |
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JoeMc
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Joined: 3/13/06 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 832 |
Posted: 11/06/08 at 8:56am |
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Not that I have been in the situation. But from memory, the groups concerned were doled out an in house breach fine, which could either be paid, show just cause or they would take court action.
Invariably the theatre group paid up & were probably put on a blacklist as well?
One I know of got done allegedly for $20 grand, because they changed the the Overture music for 'Oliver', it happened in a country town here in the bush. But the Rights Holder found out & gave them the option.
Another venue up north, had to pay out a fine, because the punters took picture during a show & they had not warned the audience with signage or an announcement about recording the show. Not that it stops the punters, but the venue was found to be vicariously liable & forced to pay up.
These are a couple of instances, but with APRA [ASCAP in your currency] they knock off regularly a Hairdressers shop, for playing music on the radio. Or a venue for playing recorded interval music &/or whoever that takes their fancy. They usually get about a $2000 fine in court, which makes the local news media. But it spreads the message & becomes a wake up call.
I believe from the grape vine, some schools & institutions on Youtube may be for a shock, in the not too distant future. Lets face it the copyright Association would only need to knock a few off every now & then, but for some reason they are sitting on their hands. Probably waiting for some game rights holder, scoring a few convictions first, before they proceed?
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"Hear the light & see the sound! TOI TOI CHOOKAS {may you always play to a full house!} |
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stageman 2
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Joined: 8/20/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Posted: 11/06/08 at 10:49am |
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It surprised me that according to the poll, so many theaters were still recording. We stopped completely, deciding to heed the warnings. We subscribe to ASCAP to cover our walk-in and intermission music but the play itself is off limits to recording. I have to admit, when I saw the poll figures, I found myself considering resuming taping but I still feel, as much as I think that recording for non-sale distribution to the cast and for archiving, should be allowed, it's just not worth the risk. Rules after all, are rules.
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Les Liss
Fine Arts, County of Effingham info@effinghamface.com www.effinghamface.com Always be yourself because the ones that matter don't care and the ones that care don't matter. |
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clee
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Joined: 9/22/10 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 10/25/10 at 2:18pm |
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We do tape, although as a director I sometimes "forget" so that I don't have to explain to the cast why we can't do it. Interestinly, the rights to South Pacific last year specifically included the rights to tape and to give each cast member a copy. Our children's troupe looks for shows which permit taping and the selling of the copies.
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poindexter05
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Joined: 8/10/10 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 10/25/10 at 9:34pm |
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We are still hearing about theater's taping shows. We stopped a few years ago after several very enlightening round-table discussions at AACT conferences. The penalties definitely aren't worth the risk.
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Always be yourself. The ones that matter don't mind and the ones that mind don't matter.
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dboris
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Joined: 2/10/04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
Posted: 10/26/10 at 1:05pm |
I have to second this opinion. Since most shows can only be licensed from one particular company, theatre's really can't afford to get on thier bad side.
Dan
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suejvin
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Joined: 10/26/10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Posted: 10/28/10 at 2:09pm |
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Taping illegally is one thing. Why would anyone then post it on YouTube? Aren't you just asking to be caught? That amazes me!
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museav
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Joined: 11/06/09 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
Posted: 12/06/10 at 2:59pm |
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According to Title 17 of the US Code, "The copyright owner is entitled to recover the actual damages suffered by him or her as a result of the infringement, and any profits of the infringer that are attributable to the infringement and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages." Alternatively, the copyright Owner may apparently settle for Statutory damages of between $750 and $30,000 before a ruling is made. If the copyright owner sustains burden of proof and the infringement is found to be willful, it seems that the Court may then expand the Statutory damages range to $200 to $150,000. Add to that any Attorney's fees or costs incurred by the copyright owner in pursuing the infringement. There are also some situation where copyright violation may be considered a criminal offense, although those are intended primarily to deal with actions such as distributing movies or software.
Another possible consideration is that apparently civil claims can be commenced up to three years after the claim accrued. The risk there is that an infringement could cause the licensing or other parties to look at the past three years for other potential infringements. One would assume that the license holders and courts might look differently at a one time offense versus someone shown to be a habitual offender.
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