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trutter
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Topic: Why didn't you cast me? Posted: 8/11/08 at 11:52am |
What do you do if someone questions your casting decisions, asking for an explanation why X got cast instead of them?
Do you answer it at all, be brutally honest, or sugar-coat it? (edited to take out some specifics) |
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kaelidancer
Lead Joined: 8/06/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 49 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 10:01am |
I've been directing for a while now, and this is inevitable. Every situation is different, but the bottom line is you don't have to justify your casting choices to anyone except yourself. "I can't cast everyone in every show. A decision had to be made, and it was a difficult one, but it wasn't personal and I'd like to see you audition again in the future" usually works for me. Sometimes, if applicable I also find it useful to append "If you still want to be part of the show, and I hope you do, we will need help with (costumes, running crew, etc). I'd like to have you involved, if you're still available." K |
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jaytee060
Star Joined: 1/18/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 63 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 10:25am |
This of course is one of the ackward issues that comes with directing. I try to be as fair as possible at auditions, giving everyone equal opportunity. Then when someone questions me on my choices, I always try to tell them the truth as to why they were not cast. Natually, diplomacy and tact is often required. There is no sense in hurting someones feelings. But honesty with suggestions for future auditions has always been the approach I have taken.
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TonyDi
Celebrity Joined: 9/13/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 325 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 11:08am |
ONE of the things I learned early on to do, is to have a moment before auditions where I explain to ALL auditioners that there ARE only so many roles in the play. I go on to say that some will make it, some will not. That it isn't a reflection of their willingness to do the show or any sort of commentary on their talents. It's just MY interpretation for the needs of the show and mine alone. I let it be known that everyone will be given full and complete consideration but in the end it is finally MY decision as to whom I cast. If they are not pains in the butt, they'll accept that (and always have) save the one or two that INSISTED they know specifically WHY they didn't get the role they thought THEY were suited for if any role at all. THEN it's just a matter of having to be honest, tempering it with consideration for their strong feelings. I know as an actor - I've been there in that same position too so I know how hard it is. BUT once I realized that in community theater, this isn't my livlihood, that it's just a local production that isn't going to make me famous, then just learning to be gracious and move on to the next one - even to the point of being overly congenial and letting them know while I am disappointed, it won't deter me from the next audition or show. SOME people simply cannot be that way. And I had to learn it as well. But sometimes you just have to be brutal - especially if they're thick-headed and just don't get it. NOT a fun thing to have to deal with.
Good luck
TonyDi
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jaytee060
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Posted: 8/14/08 at 11:32am |
Agree with everything you say Tony...especially about the pains in the butts and the thick-headed. However, I have no problem with actors asking me why they were not cast if they are seeking to learn from the expierence. I always attempt to give them constuctive things to work on for future auditions and try to encourage them.
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biggertigger
Celebrity Joined: 4/16/07 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 188 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 8:26pm |
I try not to look at the questions as why you didn't cast me as (what ever part they wanted), but what can I do to improve my auditioning techniques?
Like everyone else, I explain that I can't cast everyone and that you didn't fit the image I was going for, that it wasn't personal, etc. But I go on to explain the importants of auditioning and how to objectively look at the work being auditioned for, selecting the correct audition material, preparing for the audition, and completing a professional audition.
99% of the time someone will think they did an outstanding job auditioning for a role without realizing that their nerves got the better of them.
Do any groups offer auditioning class or techniques? We have found that these have improved our auditions greatly and found we are getting better actors in the end.
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B-M-D
Celebrity Joined: 11/03/05 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 346 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 9:25pm |
Oh how I hate that question. Because most of the time even if you're diplomatic they really don't want to understand to begin with. So rather than be diplomatic I'm honest and if they gave a lousy audition I'll tell them. But most folks that have been around the block a time or two know better than to ask the question of any director to begin with.
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tonyboling
Star Joined: 3/15/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 55 |
Posted: 8/14/08 at 9:33pm |
I never ask why I wasn't cast. I will ask what I can improve upon in my audition.
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trutter
Star Joined: 11/13/06 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 81 |
Posted: 8/19/08 at 9:46am |
thank you for your thoughts. In this particular case, which is why it is hard to "tell the truth" the actor/actress still thinks they can play 20-30 years younger than what they realistically can, and refuses to believe they can no longer play the romantic 20-30something lead.
Talk about tiptoeing around the truth! |
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imamember
Celebrity Joined: 8/18/08 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 121 |
Posted: 8/19/08 at 9:51am |
We recently did a production of The Miracle Worker and a women who played Annie Sullivan back in HS wanted to do it again. Trouble was....she's about 50 now. The director convinced her that playing Annie in the past and having that experience, coupled with being older now and having children would help her play Kate Keller better even though technically she'd be too old for Kate as well, but still a much better fit.
It worked out in the end. For the question, I know what my skills are and strengths and weaknesses, so if I'm not cast, it's understood that I just didn't "fit" and it's nothing personal. |
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